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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 6:06 pm

wang12 wrote:SMS, yes I changed the labeling as subsequent post already re-enforce the obvious.

MS, it's just being cautious as during my hubby's time in reservists, he was annually posted to a unit that just scouts forums for postings. Waste of tax payers money but I guess someone up there is even more paranoid. Any ways, thanks for your views.

Hellooooo, you are talking to an ex-military man here, As long as you are above board, there is not one bit G2/DISCOM can bite

Did he fill the above forms ? He did, and sent via courier which the OA denied receipt despite confirmation by tracking and courier company. While the under extradition treaty between the 2 countries does include bankruptcy, I am assuming its of a different nature. Also I see from records that all extraditions tend to be criminal cases and not civil cases.

The extradiction for bankruptcy are meant for big fish and with the supreme court cases filed in both country. I would not think $80k would warrant such action > Anyway yours is Chap 20 not Chap 11 or 13. Big difference

Btw, what is OZ's position for citizenship for bankruptcy? My hubby will probably to discharged before then.


He needs to be discharge d by the OA in SG before he can get PR in OZ
There is a section on this for OZ PR application "undischarged bankrupt"
You will be made to jump over hoops if ATO/ OZ Immigration finds out from the SG counterpart

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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 6:14 pm

ecureilx wrote:
Mad Scientist wrote:@chipmunk: before you start digging into the nuts, you have to provide facts when comes to serious matter like this ...
Providing hearsay would not help. Serious matter needs to be backed up with facts unless for some reason it is prohibited due to legality issue.


Chief, I didn't write based on hearsay ..

I will PM you .. I am not going to place personal info here .. and I hope you understand that bit.

And that IPTO can go after a debtor after release - if the debtor is deemed to have hidden assets/cash or failed to do a full disclosure is true - you can ask any bankruptcy lawyer, or I would be more than happy to refer you to my own debt counsellor.

As for my stand that stopping the payment is a sure case for screwup stands, as I was advised by the debt counsellor, and me standing by the payment despite the creditor increasing the demand worked in my favour - something the OP's husband had failed to do, regardless of the reasoning.

SMS: not sure if I ruffled your feather today .. what's bothering you today ?


@chipmunk ; enough has been said and I am not here to dispute your facts.
I would encourage you to go straight to the point if you have something that may alleviate the issue and good on you for doing that as this is what we are here albeit helping each other out.
The problem starts muddy when you bit around the bush and making others confused.
We are all here to help , yes ? Help we will and I do respect your contributions in this forum and am not here to judge you, just telling you that it helps if you make it simple to read. that is all
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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 25 Apr 2012 5:51 pm

This is a court judgement if you leave SG as undischarged bankrupt under the OA

http://www.lawnet.com.sg/legal/ln2/rss/ ... 13457.html
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Postby wang12 » Fri, 27 Apr 2012 2:17 pm

Thanks MS, you really have a way and sources for your information. I am surprised that cases like these require CJ to judge.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 27 Apr 2012 6:28 pm

I have not come across any cases that Extradition Application issued by High Court by MFA for undischarged bankrupt in overseas i,.e known last overseas address

BUT Australia is a signatory to SG under ET for bankruptcy
Click here - long URL
I do come across cases whereby if you owed money to Financial Institution or Government Agency , they can apply thru overseas court via overseas lawyers to recover money owed. 9 out of 10 they get what they were after.
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Postby offshoreoildude » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 8:06 am

If her husband truly has permanent residency in Australia he does not need a passport at all if he never intends to travel internationally. His visa must state 'right to remain indefinitely' or whatever the wording is. PR is Australia is PR, not like PR in Singapore - he doesn't need to show up and get it renewed every 5 years.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 7:13 pm

offshoreoildude wrote:If her husband truly has permanent residency in Australia he does not need a passport at all if he never intends to travel internationally. His visa must state 'right to remain indefinitely' or whatever the wording is. PR is Australia is PR, not like PR in Singapore - he doesn't need to show up and get it renewed every 5 years.


This is not correct. PR in Oz is 5 years. Your PR does not expires but your RRV does. You need to stay in OZ for a min of 2 years of 5 years period.
If you have been a PR for longer period and did not take up citizenship you may lose your PR/RRV
You need to give correct info please
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/968i/pdf
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Postby offshoreoildude » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 7:22 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:If her husband truly has permanent residency in Australia he does not need a passport at all if he never intends to travel internationally. His visa must state 'right to remain indefinitely' or whatever the wording is. PR is Australia is PR, not like PR in Singapore - he doesn't need to show up and get it renewed every 5 years.


This is not correct. PR in Oz is 5 years. Your PR does not expires but your RRV does. You need to stay in OZ for a min of 2 years of 5 years period.
If you have been a PR for longer period and did not take up citizenship you may lose your PR/RRV
You need to give correct info please
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/968i/pdf


As I said - provided he does not need to travel internationally - he has the right to reside In Oz indefinitely without a passport. Try that in Singapore on a PR visa. (He just can't leave Australia as he won't get out without a passport).

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 8:32 pm

You can stay in Singapore indefinitely on a PR as well with a REP. I did it for 15 months once.

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 24 Aug 2012 9:38 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:You can stay in Singapore indefinitely on a PR as well with a REP. I did it for 15 months once.


What about without a REP but a valid passport ? :)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:05 am

once again, my fingers cannot keep up with my brain. it should have been "without an REP"

But in answer to your question, as long as you don't leave the country you are okay. But soon as you do, Pfft! no more PR. (Unless you are a minor male child who hasn't done his NS duties yet).


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