REP got rejected.

Post by **Strong Eagle** » Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:58 pm

JR8 wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:MS has been alluding to this happening toward the 2nd quarter of this year for the past 6 months. They are weeding out the chaff and gonna just keep the wheat I guess. Gonna be a lot of heads rolling. Better watch mine as well!
Wow. What surprises me is that the OP sounds well established in SG, and yet PR is still being granted to newbies even today. What do some of the latter offer that the former does not, hope they'll do better than the OP?, the prospect of son/s?

I realise that some people abuse the PR system, but it seems cynical for the gubment to grant a family PR, and later revoke it.

+1 - Agreed... stable family... history... must be the wrong case officer.

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:09 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Yeah, but it's a hell of a way to have to live, not even being able to go to JB or Batam.

He made that political prisoner live on Sentosa for 30 odd years (longest held remand prisoner in history). Hell hath no fury like a Lee scorned.

ecureilx · Post by **ecureilx** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 9:33 am

Strong Eagle wrote:+1 - Agreed... stable family... history... must be the wrong case officer.

Around 2000 - when ICA was not renewing PRs, there was a pattern - those who went for PR renewal were offered citizenship and when they turned down the offer, the PR renewal was not approved ..

In this case - the only thing i could think is that the OP got PR under PTS and then is running a business.

Anyway, since he is due for renewal only in May, all is not lost ..

Post by **x9200** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:23 am

How getting PR under PTS and refusal of the REP extension with running a business are related?

vahar · Post by **vahar** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:56 am

Thanks a lot for all your inputs.

ecureilx · Post by **ecureilx** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:49 am

x9200 wrote:How getting PR under PTS and refusal of the REP extension with running a business are related?

A few years ago, somebody got PR under PTS and switched to running a business - he got a letter from ICA asking about his current job and pay slips etc. etc. .. and he duly reported that he is running a trading company ...

Well, he was not here too long to know what would have happened as he scooted off to Australia within a year of the letter coming ..

We were all speculating .. and that was just around the time that PRs were refused renewal when they didn't want to become Citizens ..

Well, does it help that of late, England news has been full of immigrants, who follow their trade as soon as they become british citizens - like doctors who take up call center work, and engineers who simply go on to live off the sytem .. etc. etc. ..

So much so, that the secretary of home affairs had to admit that 7 out of 10 skilled immigrants are not contributing any more .. and setting up businesses, working in convenience stores and so and so ...

I seriously have no clue - am just thinking aloud ..

Post by **x9200** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:20 pm

I see, but still the main and understandable reason should be that he stopped or significantly decreased in contributing and not that he opened a business. I don't really think the gahment would mind such switch if the business gives them comparable benefits.

Saint · Post by **Saint** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:44 pm

At the time you applied for the renewal of your REP, had you already submitted your 2011 Tax assessment?

vahar · Post by **vahar** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 1:06 pm

Yes, i had given all the required documents. Tax assessment, CPF statement .....etc

Post by **singaporeflyer** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 2:17 pm

vahar wrote:Yes, i had given all the required documents. Tax assessment, CPF statement .....etc

Did you try to go to ICA and meet them and ask for their advise?

vahar · Post by **vahar** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 3:13 pm

Thanks for all your inputs

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 3:21 pm

It seems a bit odd to me. You would have thought that if they were going to start revoking PRs (well in my mind not renewing REPs is a small step from revoking PRs) that on renewal they would give you say a one year REP and if that hint was not enough, make it clear that you won't be getting another one. After all if you are an established family (jobs, flat, schools etc) it takes time to unwind your affairs.

What is going to happen if they don't renew your REP, are you going to be in SG as a virtual prisoner?

RobSg · Post by **RobSg** » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 11:16 am

When I renewed my REP in 2007, I received 10 years. I told them at that time I would most likely not be working in a few years, but just retired. They said that in that case, I don't need to show any paperwork when I come in to renew- just bring my passport and IC card. Renewal would be automatic.

I even called them out of curiosity a few weeks ago, and they seemed to indicate the same thing over the phone. I just don't know.

I guess the reason I'm not worried is by that time (2017) I am pretty sure that Singapore will no longer be the welcoming place it was many years ago, and I will want to leave. For those of you that want to build a life here, the possible idea that renewing a PR is not permanent, but rather competitive based on how much your make or are worth is disturbing.

zzm9980 · Post by **zzm9980** » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 1:41 pm

RobSg wrote:For those of you that want to build a life here, the possible idea that renewing a PR is not permanent, but rather competitive based on how much your make or are worth is disturbing.

It's OK, see who has the last laugh when the xenophobes have their way and all of the foreigners leave, shutting local MNC offices down, and turning Singapore into nothing but a gambling destination. 'From 3rd World to 1st World...and back again!'

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Sun, 15 Apr 2012 1:44 pm

zzm9980 wrote: It's OK, see who has the last laugh when the xenophobes have their way and all of the foreigners leave, shutting local MNC offices down, and turning Singapore into nothing but a gambling destination. 'From 3rd World to 1st World...and back again!'

I'm detecting overtones of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged here...

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