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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 2:08 am

Highly possible but let's not get there before you cover all the bases.

You have to weigh your pros and cons and take stock from it

I do not know how HDB works nowadays.

Make sure you get from ICA and IRAS in writing to make you feel assured.
There were number of cases whereby the PR was granted after returning from SG.
Again that was before GE and lately certain demographics are not that welcome any more

If everything turns to custard then you have to take make that choice

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Postby hits_28 » Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:56 pm

Thanks a lot. I am in the process of getting cover letter and then will go and speak to ICA.

However, I just checked responses to one of the other posters which mentioned that its REP that expires but not the PR.

So if things really turn bad for me, then will it work if I come back to Singapore after 1 to 1.5 years (will ask company to send me back to Singapore, if they don't, then will find another job here and come back) and then apply for REP from Singapore. If the REP renewal is rejected, then can I stay in Singapore (with no possibility of going anywhere out) and complete my MOP if that can save my house. Once MOP is done, I can re-apply for renewal with strong hopes that circumstance change and rules for my kind of demographics are bit relaxed. If again rejected, at least I won't feel sad about surrendering HDB :-( and at least be able to get money that I have put in which I can use for my kids education hopefully !

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Postby hits_28 » Fri, 13 Apr 2012 2:11 pm

Hi,

Just wanted to update that I have been asked by ICA representative to send email to one email ID with all the details about the transfer and I have been told that this will be responded by one of the ICA officer.

Thanks everybody for your suggestions so far. I will update this post on the course of my case, if it may be of any help to anybody else.

Thanks again.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 13 Apr 2012 7:00 pm

Good on you !!

Let us know how it turns out.
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Postby skipper » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:18 pm

hits_28 wrote:Hi,

Just wanted to update that I have been asked by ICA representative to send email to one email ID with all the details about the transfer and I have been told that this will be responded by one of the ICA officer.

Thanks everybody for your suggestions so far. I will update this post on the course of my case, if it may be of any help to anybody else.

Thanks again.


One more suggestion -- you can also continue putting money on your CPF account, though now voluntarily, of course.

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Postby hits_28 » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 1:34 pm

Thanks Skipper. Yes, I have planned and I shall do that. Will contribute to CPF.

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Postby hits_28 » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 4:38 pm

Hi,

As was suggested, I had e-mailed Company cover letter (around details of US transfer) to ICA. I have received a response where they have mentioned that to renew a REP under PTS scheme, I will need to submit the proof (could be same company cover letter issues at the time of renewal) that I have been posted by Singapore company to work overseas.
There is also a disclaimer that says that the supporting document will be considered along with the totality of application during renewal process (I expect this as no one can really say that my application will 100 percent be approved).

I am atleast pleased to see a mention in email that my application will be considered if I provide proof that I was posted overseas by Singapore company. This really helps in my case.

Let me know if anybody thinks otherwise or have any further feedback to email.

You all have been a very helpful lot and I cant thank enough for all the suggestions/opinions you given here.

P.S -> As was suggested, I will be passing the cover letter to Inland revenue department, check with them regarding paying taxes and also apply for voluntary CPF contribution.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 5:28 pm

hits_28 wrote:Thanks Skipper. Yes, I have planned and I shall do that. Will contribute to CPF.


Contribution to your CPF does not change one bit on IRAS/ICA stance. What matters most is to the Gahmen Coffers.
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Postby hits_28 » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 5:44 pm

Yeap, completely understand that MS. However I will have a rental income and so I would prefer to put that into CPF as my retirement fund for now. Would prefer to believe that I will be living here for much longer term (to utilize my CPF later) unless my REP is rejected. :-)

However SMS/MS, what's your feedback around email that ICA sent me. Does the clause of "evidence from Singapore company for overseas posting" sound okay enough ? It did lower a little bit of my anxiety towards REP renewal from overseas in my case.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 5:58 pm

hits_28 wrote:Yeap, completely understand that MS. However I will have a rental income and so I would prefer to put that into CPF as my retirement fund for now. Would prefer to believe that I will be living here for much longer term (to utilize my CPF later) unless my REP is rejected. :-)

However SMS/MS, what's your feedback around email that ICA sent me. Does the clause of "evidence from Singapore company for overseas posting" sound okay enough ? It did lower a little bit of my anxiety towards REP renewal from overseas in my case.


I had this done for my ex-staff and it work wonders.
The overseas company must be a registered and running a business . Not a shell company. If you have all this submitted prior renewal , I would think this will make things less complicated.
Rental income from HDB needs to be declare with IRAS hence you are being seen as paying tax in SG
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Postby hits_28 » Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:48 am

Thanks MS. Yeah, the company is registered in US and also listed there. So no worries there.

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Postby hits_28 » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 1:53 am

Hi All, Just thought of dropping a note that I had applied for my Kids (Male) PR before my move to US which is now approved.

With the current demographic and also with me being overseas, I had least hoped for the application to get approved. However I think I got lucky but nonetheless, we are very happy with this development as this only takes us nearer to our desire to live together in Singapore.

I am waiting for the letter from ICA with dates, but just wanted to check whether do ICA consider if you are currently overseas and provide some extension (may be a month or so) on deadline to complete the final formalities. Also do my Kid also have to be present physically at ICA or can I as a sponsor travel and complete formalities on my kids behalf ? My kid is 2 years old and so I was wondering whether I can spare him 20 hours of flight travel.

Thanks.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 2:34 am

hits_28 wrote:Hi All, Just thought of dropping a note that I had applied for my Kids (Male) PR before my move to US which is now approved.

With the current demographic and also with me being overseas, I had least hoped for the application to get approved. However I think I got lucky but nonetheless, we are very happy with this development as this only takes us nearer to our desire to live together in Singapore.

I am waiting for the letter from ICA with dates, but just wanted to check whether do ICA consider if you are currently overseas and provide some extension (may be a month or so) on deadline to complete the final formalities. Also do my Kid also have to be present physically at ICA or can I as a sponsor travel and complete formalities on my kids behalf ? My kid is 2 years old and so I was wondering whether I can spare him 20 hours of flight travel.

Thanks.


Good on ya , mate !!
Good things do come when you persevere.
Make sure you inform IRAS and ICA about your US stint and have that letter to state your intention to return to SG
For your ques, best to comms with ICA or drop by at the front counter to get straight from the horse's mouth
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