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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:15 pm

x9200 wrote:.. The policeman told him that roads are not for pedestrians.
No comments, just this one ..

Was the driver's license suspended pending a court order ? or not ?

PS: NOT MY OPINION, that is what the TP told me ..

I don't think the law changed since '98 allowing an open season for drivers ..

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:17 pm

You may be lawfully right but you may still have injuries...
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Post by x9200 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 1:00 pm

ecureilx wrote:
x9200 wrote:.. The policeman told him that roads are not for pedestrians.
No comments, just this one ..

Was the driver's license suspended pending a court order ? or not ?

PS: NOT MY OPINION, that is what the TP told me ..

I don't think the law changed since '98 allowing an open season for drivers ..
I don't know what happened to the cabbie and I don't think the law changed. This is about interpretations what somebody said to you, probably similar way as you interpreted my post understanding: anybody can kill anybody with a car if 1st anybody is a a pedestrian and if all this is outside the crossing :)
I am very sure the TP just told you a simple, generalized sentence to make you vigilant, aware etc as it really takes no rocket scientist to see it can not be true. Devil is always in details. your claim:

"license will be suspended, by default, for reckless driving" - BS for me

What he probably meant:
"license will be suspended, by default, for a suspicion of reckless driving" - no problem to believe in it but doubtful if this is as B&W as you seemed to interpret this.

Now, back to the law, if you run down a pedestrian on the crossing with some very few exceptions you are always guilty as charged. If a pedestrian approaches the crossing you have to stop and give him the way.

If you run a pedestrian outside the crossing you will only be found guilty if you were driving recklessly but this not include you unconditionally stopping seeing a pedestrian on the curb or crossing the road.
And on top of this you will probably have to have a proof that the driver was reckless. Probably not that easy in majority of the cases.

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Post by aster » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 5:22 pm

x9200 wrote:I know first hand a story from one NUS prof, Singaporean, who, after few years of residing in Australia came back to Singapore, crossed a road outside a crossing and got run down by a cabbie. The policeman told him that roads are not for pedestrians.
True, and they're not even designed for pedestrians. How many times have I had to cross over three times (the long way around) just because there's no way to cross to where I want to go... Or traffic lights that last like 10 seconds for pedestrians even though cars heading parallel to the crossing still have green for over a minute...

It's not uncommon to see cars skipping a red light in Singapore as the lights change. Even if there is a cop car present, waiting first in line at the intersection, they will not react.

The way people drive makes me think there must be hidden bonuses for running over a pedestrian, maybe a 2-yr tax break or an upgrade to a bigger HDB flat. There's gotta be something to it. ;)

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 5:37 pm

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x9200 wrote:True, and they're not even designed for pedestrians. How many times have I had to cross over three times (the long way around) just because there's no way to cross to where I want to go...
THIS.

Scotts Road on the North-bound side where Stevens Road branches out. Over five times IIRC just to keep walking on the "same side" of the road because you have to cross to the other side of Scotts road first, cross Stevens Road and cross Scotts Road again.

And

The junction of Holland Avenue and Commonwealth Avenue of the southbound side. Four traffic lights just to cross Commonwealth Avenue!
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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:40 am

nakatago wrote: THIS.

Scotts Road on the North-bound side where Stevens Road branches out. Over five times IIRC just to keep walking on the "same side" of the road because you have to cross to the other side of Scotts road first, cross Stevens Road and cross Scotts Road again.
That is because, some town planner thought those on that side of Scotts must turn left into Stevens, and then again, turn left into Clarymore .. and then .. ;) ;)

If somebody raises the issue, of course, LTA will quickly plant an overhead bridge ..

To think of it, years ago, I thought there was an overhead bridge somewhere around that junction, across the Thumper / Goodwood hotel ..

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