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schengen italian visa

Postby Bella2 » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 6:38 pm

Anyone know how to get an Italian tourist visa for their domestic helper? She doesn't have bank statements. Thanks

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Postby x9200 » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 6:54 pm

Have you tried this highly unorthodox approach calling an Italian embassy? There is one in Singapore.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 8:15 pm

Where is the damned :snigger: smilie when you need one! :x

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Postby JR8 » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 8:22 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Where is the damned :snigger: smilie when you need one! :x


On which note!

What happened to the emo blowing out the party hooter?

He was there, and he's not anymore... shame that was fun :)

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Postby merichan » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 8:59 pm

One thing you need to know...


depending on your flight plans - and I don't think Italy as that many direct flights from Singapore, so that's definitely important to consider...

You have to ask a Shengen visa for the country in which you will enter Shengen.


To give a silly example, you fly to Italy via Amsterdam, you don't ask the Shengen visa to Italy but to Netherlands as Netherland will process the entry in Shengen space.

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Postby JR8 » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 9:06 pm

merichan wrote:... To give a silly example, you fly to Italy via Amsterdam, you don't ask the Shengen visa to Italy but to Netherlands as Netherland will process the entry in Shengen space.


This confuses me, and I was wondering if you could explain further. Surely there is only one kind of visa in the Schengen area, i.e. a Schengen visa, and the Netherlands can't issue a 'visa for Italy'?

I.e. you arrive in AMS get your Schengen visa, after which you have passport-less travel within the Schengen area.

No? :?

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Postby nakatago » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:03 pm

Maybe because you usually apply for the visa from the consular office/affiliate office of country of entry?

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Postby JR8 » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:07 pm

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :-|


p.s. There's me thinking just about anyone turns up in the EU and gets in without a visa (because they do it seems)...

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Postby merichan » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:26 pm

JR8 wrote:
merichan wrote:... To give a silly example, you fly to Italy via Amsterdam, you don't ask the Shengen visa to Italy but to Netherlands as Netherland will process the entry in Shengen space.


This confuses me, and I was wondering if you could explain further. Surely there is only one kind of visa in the Schengen area, i.e. a Schengen visa, and the Netherlands can't issue a 'visa for Italy'?

I.e. you arrive in AMS get your Schengen visa, after which you have passport-less travel within the Schengen area.

No? :?



Yes there is only one visa for the whole shengen area

What I meant is you need to ask that visa in the shengen country through which you are going to enter Shengen.

Each shengen country delivers shengen visa, that work for all the shengen area, but if you plan to enter by amsterdam then you apply for the visa in Netherlands embassy, even if your final and only real destination in Europe is Italy.

Flights internal to shengen space have no more border controls, and if you arrive with an italian shengen visa in netherlands they might give you some grief, even refuse entry as they are not the ones you gave you the visa.


It happened to one of my friends, in the end he was able to sway the immigration officers and he was able to get through amsterdam to his connecting flight to Switzerland, but for a while he really thought they would just send him back.

He hadn't realized he would enter Shengen in Netherlands, even though is destination was switzerland and he was JUST on a connecting flight.

Coming from amsterdam in Switzerland you have a straight through hall with no control and nobody, just a revolving door to make sure you don't track back :)

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 14 Mar 2012 2:12 am

It is an interesting topic, something I'd never even considered. It is ironic given how the EU is meant to be a Federal state... 'no more petty nationalism'. The point you make though is visas are not issued at a federal level.

You're right about clearance at country #1, in your case at AMS rather than the destination. Something to watch if you have been given an itinerary with very tight intra-EU connections (SQ/LH routinely give 60-75 min connections with Germany... and German immigration are SLOW).


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