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Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 3:12 pm

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Mi Amigo wrote:
Apocalypse wrote:My dilemma is I am in an overseas country posting and moved with my family, I am not in a position now to accept the citizenship, as I have to fly back to Singapore do all the formalities.
Here's what I don't understand about your situation - you are a Permanent Resident of Singapore, who has apparently been offered citizenship, yet you are not able to even visit the country?

Is your overseas assignment via your Singapore employer (with your salary still being paid in Singapore)?


Did you apply for Singapore citizenship, or was it offerred to you by the Singaporean authorities without you having applied? (I've seen examples on this forum where citizenship has been offerred at the time of REP renewal, but that doesn't seem to fit your case).

Applied for it about almost 20 months ago, and now working for the same company overseas and salary is drawn here not in Singapore.
While you salary is drawn there, are you still employed by the locally based company? e.g., does your employer make CPF contributions and are you required to pay taxes to IRAS on this income?
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Post by Apocalypse » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 3:43 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Apocalypse wrote:
Mi Amigo wrote: Here's what I don't understand about your situation - you are a Permanent Resident of Singapore, who has apparently been offered citizenship, yet you are not able to even visit the country?

Is your overseas assignment via your Singapore employer (with your salary still being paid in Singapore)?


Did you apply for Singapore citizenship, or was it offerred to you by the Singaporean authorities without you having applied? (I've seen examples on this forum where citizenship has been offerred at the time of REP renewal, but that doesn't seem to fit your case).

Applied for it about almost 20 months ago, and now working for the same company overseas and salary is drawn here not in Singapore.
While you salary is drawn there, are you still employed by the locally based company? e.g., does your employer make CPF contributions and are you required to pay taxes to IRAS on this income?
Thanks for the responses

Same company, different role and no taxes or CPF contribution to Singapore.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 4:27 pm

One word can just about sum it up for you.

Ouch. or Stuffed.
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Post by Mad Scientist » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 5:15 pm

Apocalypse wrote:
My dilemma is I am in an overseas country posting and moved with my family, I am not in a position now to accept the citizenship, as I have to fly back to Singapore do all the formalities.

Can I request to defer this until I come back to Singapore?

My PR is still valid for two more years.

Thanks
These questions poses a few sub reply. I will disseminate for you with what I got as there are not much that you are revealing in order to go forward

1. If you are posted to overseas by your parent company. you should request from your SG company a letter stating your overseas stint, pay drawn overseas aka the whole shebang. Your company needs to address this to IRAS and ICA separately and states your intention to return back to SG when this stint is over as you do not want to lose your Prship
2. You / your company should get a reply from both agencies giving you the blessing and assurance of your PR/REP status
3. This citizenship formality can be defer up to 2 months max unless for reasons beyond my glasses that it can later than that hence I do not that knowledge. Maybe you can ask friendlyboss as he seems to repeat what we say and provide a smoke screen as a knowledgeable person
4. You need to get this deferment in writing from ICA
5. Your biggest concern will be your PR/REP status which clause 1 clearly advice you to get this done asap
6. I would strongly suggest you inform your company of your oath taking etc and return back to SG. This is a ONE WAY street deal. Forego means letting go which is a NO GO if you intend to reside here in SG. Spend the money if you must and stay here to complete the formalities then leave again as a NEW SG citizen. Why waste this chance?
Some waited for more than 10 years to get citizenship so be grateful for this opportunity
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