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Citizenship chances

Postby wtj » Wed, 07 Mar 2012 9:45 pm

Dear all, been reading the forum entries since I applied for SG citizenship in Oct last year. Would like to hear views on my chances and should the application be rejected, what I can do for the appeal. Below is my info

Gender: Female
Age: 26
Nationality and race: Malaysian Chinese
Education: Bachelor of Business from NTU (2nd upper honours), graduated in 2008
Salary: close to 4k
Family background: Parents are Malaysians, been PRs for more than 30 yrs. Elder brother went for NS, now a Singaporean, younger sister is a PR, still schooling. I'm born in Singapore and have been residing here since then, got my PR when I was 5 under my father's sponsorship.

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Postby wtj » Wed, 07 Mar 2012 9:52 pm

Would like to add more info
1. Applied for citizenship in 2008. I was then offered a position as a pilot with the air force after graduation in 2008. RSAF actually provided a letter to ICA to support my application. The approval process took forever and I accepted another job offer with a SG based company.
2. The job requires me to undergo training overseas for a period of about 2.5 years (management trainee program). During this period of time, my salary will be paid from abroad and hence I will not be getting CPF or be paying SG taxes.
3. Several months after I was sent overseas, my citizenship application actually got approved. I wrote in to defer the carrying out of the formalities and they could only defer it for 1 month. I wrote in again to explain my situation and in the end I had to give up on this application as it was not possible for me to leave my work and return to SG for several months.

Recently relocated back to SG permanently in April 2011.

Worried that I may be placed in a blacklist for not taking up citizenship in 2008...

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:22 pm

You will probably be okay, but they may make you wait for a year or two. You are still flavour of the month, so keep your fingers crossed.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 08 Mar 2012 1:17 am

Ah...... not sure but will check and revert if time permits
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Postby JR8 » Thu, 08 Mar 2012 3:14 am

A 2.5yr management training course!?

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Postby wtj » Thu, 08 Mar 2012 9:11 pm

the program is actually a 5-7 year development program. in the first 3 years i will be seconded to different BGs in different depts to understand the ground operations (all overseas).

I asked for a an internal transfer back to SG HQ before the 3 yrs mainly because my rep renewal got rejected and I had to retun to SG before they can renew it for me.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 6:54 pm

wtj wrote:the program is actually a 5-7 year development program. in the first 3 years i will be seconded to different BGs in different depts to understand the ground operations (all overseas).

I asked for a an internal transfer back to SG HQ before the 3 yrs mainly because my rep renewal got rejected and I had to retun to SG before they can renew it for me.


OP

There is alot of missing blanks in your post. You need to fill in and bare all for me to provide answers or else I cannot help
You removed alot of infos on your first post. You know what I meant
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Postby wtj » Sun, 11 Mar 2012 2:50 pm

Dear Mad Scientist,

What other info would you need?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sun, 11 Mar 2012 5:02 pm

wtj wrote:Dear Mad Scientist,

What other info would you need?



Why don't you tell me? I am not a clairvoyant or mind reader but I do not know there are a lot of missing puzzles.
Please do not PM me
Bare all and I will help you and so that others can share your experience
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Postby wtj » Sun, 11 Mar 2012 9:43 pm

summary of my situation
1. been working for a SG company for 3.5 yrs
2. first 2.5 yrs i was sent overseas for training, no cpf, paid overseas tax
3. transferred back to sg in april 2011. been getting cpf since. recently filed taxes. had to transfer back as my rep renewal got rejected since i have no cpf or sg tax slips. ica renewed my rep immediately when i transferred back to sg.
4. applied for sg citizenship in oct 2011
5. once applied for sg citizenship after i just grad from ntu in 2008 with support from rsaf. application was pending for many months. few months after i accepted another job offer and was sent overseas, application was approved. i did not take up citizenship then as i cannot leave my assignment to come back to sg for possibly several months to complete all the formalities and renounce my malaysian citizenship.

wish to know given my background and credentials if i stand a good chance now.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Mon, 12 Mar 2012 5:52 pm

First of all, citizenship application normally granted after 5 years of PRship i.e you have gone thru your REP renewal which basically means if ICA approves, you have paid your tax in SG
Your PR that you received under family ties years ago and your tertiary education in local Uni allows you to retain your PR even after initial rejection.
What bothers me is why can't you return back to SG just to take the Oath of Allegiance just for one day? It is a no brainer, really!!
Your citizenship application was approved and yet you did not return to take your allegiance. I was made to understand you can even do it SG Overseas Mission if written approval by ICA was initiated.
Why is it so hard for you not to return to SG for the oath taking baffles me a lot?
From memory if you refuse your citizenship, that's it you're done for, unless you can provide me a"real" reason for not returning.
I am stating this based on past records. As I have said if you do not tell , I cannot help to show you your next step.
BTW I did not know we have women pilot in RSAF. What post did you apply? I doubt you are gunning for fighter pilot.
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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 12 Mar 2012 6:40 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:BTW I did not know we have women pilot in RSAF. What post did you apply? I doubt you are gunning for fighter pilot.


I hear at least 6-10 non-combat aircraft landing every day @ Paya Lebar. I assume women can fly them?

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Postby wtj » Tue, 13 Mar 2012 8:55 pm

haha, not as a fighter jet pilot, uav pilot. I missed the height req by a bit. :(

With regards to why I did not return to SG, I actually contacted ICA and explained to them my situation at that time. They said if I return to SG to complete the formalities and renounce my msian citizenship, I will not be able to travel for possibly several months. My job requires me to travel at that time so I wrote in to defer the formalities. They only agreed to delay it for a month so in the end I had no choice but to give it up.

When I applied in Oct last year, I made it clear to the officer of what happened in 2008. In the citizenship application form towards the end, I'm supposed to declare that I have not renounced, been deprived of or had SG citizenship terminated. In short, I have to declare that I have never acquired SG citizenship. I double confirmed with the office if my situation actually falls into the renounce/been deprived of/terminate category, she reassured that I'm fine, as long as I did not complete the formalities, I am considered to have never acquired SG citizenship.

Is my case slightly diff from what you know from past records?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 14 Mar 2012 9:10 am

Ok , here is the raw deal.
Technically you are OK
If you can get it in writing or the the name of the officer, it will be a sure and safe bet
For not able to travel after taking Oath is new to me. Never heard nor have any issues at all. Once you have acquired the citizenship , go to second floor and apply PP. I cannot fathom a reason for this excuse
Anyway this is not from me but the words from GOD aka &*^
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Postby Modery » Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:30 am

Mad Scientist wrote:O
For not able to travel after taking Oath is new to me. Never heard nor have any issues at all. Once you have acquired the citizenship , go to second floor and apply PP. I cannot fathom a reason for this excuse


A colleague had to wait a bit (few weeks, think 3?) for his passport once he had all formalities completed, and of course couldn't travel then. But several months sounds wrong


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