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by zzm9980 » Thu, 01 Mar 2012 6:39 pm
I've been pricing used cars (which is its own completely unique science to Singapore) and Peugot 308s keep coming up as rather good deals for my criteria and price range.
As an American, we never had French things, except French (later Freedom) Fries. As such, I have no concept of the quality of a French vehicle. I'm rather sure they're not Hondas and can accept that, but I do want to make sure they're not Fiats either. Can anyone more "worldly" give me a rough idea of the quality of the Peugot brand? While I'll welcome even soccer-mom anecdotes of "We loved ours!" or "It never started and this dealer was a jerk", I'm very interested more in motorhead and others who pay attention to automative things providing some input.
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by QRM » Thu, 01 Mar 2012 6:52 pm
http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/jd-powe ... 19/250115/
seem about average, the big test is customer service call peugot work shop up and say you are looking for a spare part, see how efficient they are in finding it and how they treat you.
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by JR8 » Thu, 01 Mar 2012 6:59 pm
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by zzm9980 » Thu, 01 Mar 2012 7:47 pm
Thanks. I just read that in Richard Hammond's voice to myself. Now I don't want it.

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by JR8 » Thu, 01 Mar 2012 8:00 pm
zzm9980 wrote:
Thanks. I just read that in Richard Hammond's voice to myself. Now I don't want it.

Lol.
Crikey, I think James May's voice might have made it sound even less attractive

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by the lynx » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 3:26 pm
I'm no expert when it comes to cars, but as someone who drove a Peugeot for half year here in Singapore. I can only say these few things from my perspective:
1. The spare parts are the killer. I wouldn't mind the expensive bite but waiting for weeks to get the parts?!
2. Doesn't usually happen to new ones but the middle-aged cars often have problems starting up the engine, especially if you do not use it for a day or two.
Well thank goodness my former company gave me a Honda City instead so it ended my ordeal with that Peugeot.
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by zzm9980 » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 3:40 pm
the lynx wrote:
Well thank goodness my former company gave me a Honda City instead so it ended my ordeal with that Peugeot.
Yeah, after reading a bit about it, and realizing Singapore has almost no warranties, I've pretty much settled myself to a Honda.
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by ScoobyDoes » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 5:35 pm
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I've pretty much settled myself to a Honda.
Anything Japanese...... over the past 5-yrs i have worked out my Subaru is costing on average S$80/month on maintenance or less than $3 per day and i'm easily doing 20,000kms per year.
Go for anything less exotic like a Toyota Corolla and you could even get that down by half.
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by zzm9980 » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 6:33 pm
My experience with Subaru's in the US was that their boxer engines got worse gas milage than other similar displacement motors... Is that so here? I think most of those were boxer 2.5s my friends had.
Since the commute is about 15km each way, I'm trying to be miserly here

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by ScoobyDoes » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 9:24 pm
It's not the best certainly but there is a trade off for 270hp and AWD so I would say given both conditions, 11-12L per 100kms is okay. On a trip up to KL I get that down to a very agreeable 9L.
My colleague's Santa Fe is far worse than mine

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by JR8 » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 9:28 pm
ScoobyDoes wrote:It's not the best certainly but there is a trade off for 270hp and AWD so I would say given both conditions, 11-12L per 100kms is okay. On a trip up to KL I get that down to a very agreeable 9L.
My colleague's Santa Fe is far worse than mine

5-7 MPG.... you're kidding right?
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by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 9:40 pm
DAMN! Even my old 1972 Cadillac Coupe de Ville with a 472 c.i. engine got 8 mpg! For that matter so did my old 400 c.i. Olds 442!
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by JR8 » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 9:45 pm
Even my beast of a '74 Chevelle got 13MPG.
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by zzm9980 » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 9:52 pm
JR8 wrote:ScoobyDoes wrote:It's not the best certainly but there is a trade off for 270hp and AWD so I would say given both conditions, 11-12L per 100kms is okay. On a trip up to KL I get that down to a very agreeable 9L.
My colleague's Santa Fe is far worse than mine

5-7 MPG.... you're kidding right?
Is my math wrong? I came up with ~20mpg...
100km ~= 60 miles
12l ~= 3 gallons
= 20mpg
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by JR8 » Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:14 pm
Oh yeah....

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