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Postby dhiv » Tue, 21 Feb 2012 4:57 pm

Ya I covered the Norwegian fish farming companies. ☺Very very rare though not many cover them..
HK banks.... Hmmm.. not many, but I have worked on a couple of them. But as for banks they are governed by the Basel committee and a central bank. Once you have your macro economics in place, I guess any region is the same. After all, all the banks make money the same way. Hence the valuation and forecasting methods are same... It take about some time to understand the macro factors affecting earning.. So that should not be a problem... Which most the consultants donor understand..😔
Nope.. No contacts yet made in Singapore we are new here.. So I guess linkdin is the best way then...

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 21 Feb 2012 8:53 pm

JR8 wrote:How about taking a job advert and calling up. If you reach an HR 'gatekeeper' discuss it with them or better still find out who the decision maker is going to be on it and speak to them.

Ten odd years ago I went to a workshop where this approach was demonstrated. There were maybe twelve of us in the room, and the host had a phone with a loudspeaker attached. He tossed a few papers on the table (FT, Times, Guardian etc) and asked us to pick some job adverts.

He then set about calling each one. We could hear the 2-way conversation, the receiving party was unaware of this. In most instances he got to speak to someone in a position to tell him more about what the job entailed and what was required, and at the least he then had the name of a contact and could follow up in writing as 'Further to our conversation of xyz'. In a few instances he got the name and straight through to the person doing the hiring. Some of the relevant people were unavailble, but at least he got their names to follow-up on.

It was really fascinating, and we sat around the table all a bit stunned at the brazen-ness of his approach. He'd ask them ... 'So the job is described as xyz which is fine, but what other skills or qualities are there that you're really looking for, what will make the difference?'. This was something he kept going back to with us, that the job description is often just a template description, meanwhile what will swing it is frequently unspoken - unless you get to speak to them.

Quite amazing really, these were FTSE-100 companies he was calling, and the cues and leads he was getting simply by asking were extraordinary. I remember after the 1/2 day feeling like I'd been in the presence of a magician or illusionist it was that surreal what he got just by being bold enough to ask.


If you have time or inclination to listen to podcasts, go find one called the "Social Engineering" podcast. There's a bunch, and it focuses on using social engineering in Information Security related settings (e.g., to assist in breaking into offices and computer networks). However a few are more generic, just on influencing people and psychology behind it.Quite interesting to listen to :)

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 21 Feb 2012 9:00 pm

dhiv wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:The answer is such a simple one, that I'm puzzled why you guys don't cotton to it. Mandarin is required, not so much for the job, but for the ease of communication in the office. You will find that the majority of your colleagues will be Chinese. They DO like to converse primarily in their mother tongue. If all in the off....


Are you really saying that people in offices in Singapore speak Chinese? I was still assuming that English was mainly spoken here. Now I guess I may have to take up mandarin classes then..

Thank you..


Classes won't help you much. It would be like going to an English class at the British Council to pick up Singlish :P


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