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Postby VTYS » Thu, 02 Dec 2004 3:38 pm

1) You are approached by a teenager along Orchard Road and are asked
to do a survey. You'd be approached especially if you look like
foreigners. In the survey, if you indicate that you and your partner
are above 25, have combined salary of $5000, and own credit card/s,
you'd be entitled to a scratch-and-win lucky draw.

2) For the lucky draw, the top prize is a free 7N accomodation, and
other prizes are dining/shopping vouchers from $10-$60 thereabouts.
The teenager would jump in joy saying how lucky you are, as he'd be
able to get commission of up to $150 if you go and collect your
prize.

3) He brings you to his manager, who congratulates you, then asks
that you go to a travel exhibition-fair-talk-thingy down Orchard Rd
(Faber House near OG, or anywhere else). If you stay for at least
60-80mins, you'd get your gifts and the teenager would get his commission.

4) So off you go, out of pity for the boy and curiosity to check out
the fair, esp when you know you'd have travel plans in the coming
years, and of course, to get your prizes. You're escorted to the office
and wait at the recep.

5) You'd be asked to show ur ICs to verify ur ages, ur details
would be taken down. Interestingly, there's a lucky draw. There'd be a
few sets of 4 digits at the counter, and if your credit card's last 4
digits match, you'd win shopping vouchers. This is when you'd take out all your
credit cards, and they can take the chance to verify that you do
have credit cards.

6) Then, another attractive consultant would take over from the
teenager and bring you into another room. Before you step in, you'd
be asked to switch off your hps, not even to silent modes. You enter
quite a big room with many small round tables and chairs. You sit at
one with your consultant, who sits you through a survey to see ur travel
preferences and spending power so they'd take note and offer you a
package you'd find affordable and attractive.

7) They'd show you some cut-out pictures and floor plans of suites
you'd be getting if you purchase their membership package. There
won't be concrete black & white info on the profile of their company.
There'd be a manager who'd drop by every now and then especially when the
consultant has difficulty convincing you. As the consultant and
manager talk, they'd write the info down on paper, explaining to you the
supposed savings if you sign up their travel packages.

8) Their packages are at least $10k. They also offer trial membership
at $3k or so, with a Phuket trip or other freebies. They would sell the
system to you and talk for hours. When you feel that the deal is
good and you sign, a bell will ring and everyone there would clap and
welcome you into the club. You are then asked to pay. They'd even
offer great discounts and 0% interest free instalments. You even get a
free welcome gift like a dvd player.

9) (a) You leave thinking you got a good deal, then try to book your
holidays. Only to realise that you can't get your holidays booked
even if you're 6-8months early. Or your accomodation is only 3 star, not
4/5 star. You want to cancel your membership as you don't really have a
chance to use it and do not have that much leave to clear, but they
do not allow as you're bound by the contract. They threaten to sue you
if you breach the contract. You're trapped and go on paying the
membership, as well as yearly maintenance fees of a few hundred sing dollars at
least. Though they promise to be able to buy the package over from
you and sell it, they'd be unable to as there're too many conned people
who wanna sell, but no one who wanna buy.

b) You leave having doubts, and surf the net for more information.
And realise you're conned by a timeshare company. Luckily, if you
terminate within 3 working days, as stipulated by Singapore laws, you will be
refunded. Get ready to be firm as they try to talk you out of
cancellation. Or they try to drag past the 3 days.

***
I have been conned to this stage and after surfing the net for more
information, realised that I've fallen for a scam by timeshare
companies.

I'm lucky that I find out about this within 3 days of signing, so I
can get a full refund. I'd be going down tomorrow and expect a
showdown.
Heard that they'd sit you through hours, trying to find excuses like
the person in charge is not around, or offer other packages, to make you
stay in the programme. Mi & fiance will remain firm tomorrow and
create a big hoo-ha if necessary. I am really very upset to go through this.
But I'm concerned that we, Singaporeans, be united and warn one
another against this. Let's put an end to this and protect our fellowmen and
tourists. I intend to go up to those taking surveys on Orchard road,
to warn them on the spot. Touting is illegal in Singapore anyway! We
need to boost our tourism too! How can we allow these people with
ill-intentions spoil our clean and lawful image? Tourists who are
conned can get a refund from Singapore Tourism Board STB) though. I hope
that more people would be forewarned against these scams. This message
is! prepared to bring more awareness to as many people as poss. With
such an awareness, you would not be curious to find out more about their
travel talks, neither would you and your loved ones go through
losing thousands and tens of thousands paying for nothing but heartache and
constant disturbing calls. (They'd keep calling to ask you to
upgrade your package, etc.) Have attached related websites for those who'd
like to find out more, and are looking for avenues for the possibility
to get a refund or take legal action. Please refer if you have a few
minutes.
i) http://www.geocities.com/hcspore03/
ii) http://www.voy.com/161450/
iii) http://www.petitiononline.com/hcspore3/
May we enjoy affordable holidays within our own means, without
headaches and heartaches.DO NOT be conned anymore. Let's boycott
these surveyors and cold-callers and some who got your numbers through
asking their current members. All the best!

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....

Postby bobdoom » Thu, 02 Dec 2004 6:13 pm

1st... MLM... now timeshare.....

mingjian4067

Re: Timeshare article. Please read

Postby mingjian4067 » Fri, 03 Dec 2004 5:30 pm

VTYS wrote:1) You are approached by a teenager along Orchard Road and are asked
to do a survey. You'd be approached especially if you look like
foreigners. In the survey, if you indicate that you and your partner
are above 25, have combined salary of $5000, and own credit card/s,
you'd be entitled to a scratch-and-win lucky draw.

2) For the lucky draw, the top prize is a free 7N accomodation, and
other prizes are dining/shopping vouchers from $10-$60 thereabouts.
The teenager would jump in joy saying how lucky you are, as he'd be
able to get commission of up to $150 if you go and collect your
prize.

3) He brings you to his manager, who congratulates you, then asks
that you go to a travel exhibition-fair-talk-thingy down Orchard Rd
(Faber House near OG, or anywhere else). If you stay for at least
60-80mins, you'd get your gifts and the teenager would get his commission.

4) So off you go, out of pity for the boy and curiosity to check out
the fair, esp when you know you'd have travel plans in the coming
years, and of course, to get your prizes. You're escorted to the office
and wait at the recep.

5) You'd be asked to show ur ICs to verify ur ages, ur details
would be taken down. Interestingly, there's a lucky draw. There'd be a
few sets of 4 digits at the counter, and if your credit card's last 4
digits match, you'd win shopping vouchers. This is when you'd take out all your
credit cards, and they can take the chance to verify that you do
have credit cards.

6) Then, another attractive consultant would take over from the
teenager and bring you into another room. Before you step in, you'd
be asked to switch off your hps, not even to silent modes. You enter
quite a big room with many small round tables and chairs. You sit at
one with your consultant, who sits you through a survey to see ur travel
preferences and spending power so they'd take note and offer you a
package you'd find affordable and attractive.

7) They'd show you some cut-out pictures and floor plans of suites
you'd be getting if you purchase their membership package. There
won't be concrete black & white info on the profile of their company.
There'd be a manager who'd drop by every now and then especially when the
consultant has difficulty convincing you. As the consultant and
manager talk, they'd write the info down on paper, explaining to you the
supposed savings if you sign up their travel packages.

8) Their packages are at least $10k. They also offer trial membership
at $3k or so, with a Phuket trip or other freebies. They would sell the
system to you and talk for hours. When you feel that the deal is
good and you sign, a bell will ring and everyone there would clap and
welcome you into the club. You are then asked to pay. They'd even
offer great discounts and 0% interest free instalments. You even get a
free welcome gift like a dvd player.

9) (a) You leave thinking you got a good deal, then try to book your
holidays. Only to realise that you can't get your holidays booked
even if you're 6-8months early. Or your accomodation is only 3 star, not
4/5 star. You want to cancel your membership as you don't really have a
chance to use it and do not have that much leave to clear, but they
do not allow as you're bound by the contract. They threaten to sue you
if you breach the contract. You're trapped and go on paying the
membership, as well as yearly maintenance fees of a few hundred sing dollars at
least. Though they promise to be able to buy the package over from
you and sell it, they'd be unable to as there're too many conned people
who wanna sell, but no one who wanna buy.

b) You leave having doubts, and surf the net for more information.
And realise you're conned by a timeshare company. Luckily, if you
terminate within 3 working days, as stipulated by Singapore laws, you will be
refunded. Get ready to be firm as they try to talk you out of
cancellation. Or they try to drag past the 3 days.

***
I have been conned to this stage and after surfing the net for more
information, realised that I've fallen for a scam by timeshare
companies.

I'm lucky that I find out about this within 3 days of signing, so I
can get a full refund. I'd be going down tomorrow and expect a
showdown.
Heard that they'd sit you through hours, trying to find excuses like
the person in charge is not around, or offer other packages, to make you
stay in the programme. Mi & fiance will remain firm tomorrow and
create a big hoo-ha if necessary. I am really very upset to go through this.
But I'm concerned that we, Singaporeans, be united and warn one
another against this. Let's put an end to this and protect our fellowmen and
tourists. I intend to go up to those taking surveys on Orchard road,
to warn them on the spot. Touting is illegal in Singapore anyway! We
need to boost our tourism too! How can we allow these people with
ill-intentions spoil our clean and lawful image? Tourists who are
conned can get a refund from Singapore Tourism Board STB) though. I hope
that more people would be forewarned against these scams. This message
is! prepared to bring more awareness to as many people as poss. With
such an awareness, you would not be curious to find out more about their
travel talks, neither would you and your loved ones go through
losing thousands and tens of thousands paying for nothing but heartache and
constant disturbing calls. (They'd keep calling to ask you to
upgrade your package, etc.) Have attached related websites for those who'd
like to find out more, and are looking for avenues for the possibility
to get a refund or take legal action. Please refer if you have a few
minutes.
i) http://www.geocities.com/hcspore03/
ii) http://www.voy.com/161450/
iii) http://www.petitiononline.com/hcspore3/
May we enjoy affordable holidays within our own means, without
headaches and heartaches.DO NOT be conned anymore. Let's boycott
these surveyors and cold-callers and some who got your numbers through
asking their current members. All the best!


hi can let us know whether u got ur refund?

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Postby laluna1009 » Sun, 05 Dec 2004 2:16 pm

VTYS!hey! when r you coming out for drinks,buddy?


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