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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 5:34 pm

JR8 wrote:Thanks for the link Ecu, very interesting, I'd never heard of these people before!
You forgot. I mentioned them to you the last time you questioned it.......

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic78889.html
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Post by JR8 » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 5:52 pm

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JR8 wrote:Thanks for the link Ecu, very interesting, I'd never heard of these people before!
You forgot. I mentioned them to you the last time you questioned it.......

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic78889.html

You're right!

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Post by love83g » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 6:03 pm

Hi guys please don't get me wrong if i did seek some advice in this forum. i know not everyone will understand it and i do respect that but please don't judge or think that i am looking for a way for my son to benefit me or any sympathy to other people. i am here to seek an advice and not to be judge with people who are really don't know me well. if you cant say anything that is relevant on it please just don't comment or post. thanks for understanding.

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Post by nakatago » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 6:58 pm

love83g wrote:Hi guys please don't get me wrong if i did seek some advice in this forum. i know not everyone will understand it and i do respect that but please don't judge or think that i am looking for a way for my son to benefit me or any sympathy to other people. i am here to seek an advice and not to be judge with people who are really don't know me well. if you cant say anything that is relevant on it please just don't comment or post. thanks for understanding.
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Post by ecureilx » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 7:15 pm

I don't see anybody judging anybody or drawing anologies, or any derailing .. yet ..

Despite 'not possible' and 'not likely' as the common answer, the OP is asking for options .. and she got, including some suggestion to threaten the father .. that wasn't me though ..

And how she can stay here ? Though she didn't say it out .. unless the child is going to be minus a caretaker .. or boarded, which too is not possible for such a young child, I deduce that is vital for her as well ..

She asked, and the options were given out, including why ICA is very vary of study mamas .... unlike before when they were the norm here ..

And I did suggest that she has a better chance of enrolling the child in a good school back home, which wouldn't cost an arm and a length. And Philippines does have some great schools, unless I am mistaken on that.

I am sorry if TS took it otherwise, and felt offended. Or felt she is being judged. Apologies again.

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Post by zzm9980 » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 8:16 pm

Is the father willing to fund the mother back home in the Philippines? That is the best bet in this situation, I agree.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 8:38 pm

ecureilx wrote:including why ICA is very vary of study mamas .... unlike before when they were the norm here ..
This is a very common mistake for those from the subcontinent. It's Wary not Vary. Very Wary. I only mention it because it's the 2nd time I've seen you do this. :wink:
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Post by therat » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 9:15 pm

the lynx wrote:
ecureilx wrote:as well as the Huang Na incident and the amount of positive support that came outpouring initially, and and which quickly soured and turned into anger against the mother's perceived efforts on generating maximum donation using the sympathy ..
Oh come on! You know that bit was a rumour itself.
which part of the news?

When someone told the news reporter that the mother has another name and work in the factory before.
The mother use her daughter life to swear to the god. That it was a rumour.

Turn out, that so-call rumour was truth. She did come into Singapore as factory worker and was deport back to China for overstay or something else.
Which her name was black listed.
She burn her own finger print and change her name to get a new passport to come in as study mama

When people ask, why Huang Na biological father (ex-husband) and present father (present husband) didn't come to Singapore, help to search the child.
She claim both of them were busy with their business.
Turn out, both of them was either over-stay or caught into trouble on Singapore law and BOTH of them was deport back to China and blacklisted.

As for the 4 storey building, you know what is her explanation for building 4 storey?
Her explanation is .. in order to see her daughter

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Post by ecureilx » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 9:51 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: This is a very common mistake for those from the subcontinent. It's Wary not Vary. Very Wary. I only mention it because it's the 2nd time I've seen you do this. :wink:
Noted Chief :D I will be very vary (oh wait .. ) I meant, Wary of what I pen .. :) sorry, it was a lisp of the tongue ..

zzm9980: which is what I too suggested .. but the OP is more fixated on getting her child in to the Singapore education system, when everything says NO, unless she can prove to the Singapore Govt that she has enough dough to allow her kid to be here + mother to be allowed to stay here .. minus any chance for the mother to work ..







therat: let me imagine that I didn't read what you wrote ... :oops: :oops:

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:11 pm

Squirrel, my wife & her siblings also do the same thing. It's part and parcel of a lot of Indian (or others from the region) to mix up their v's & w's. I've never quite figured out why. I've asked my wife and she doesn't know either. But a large portion do pronounce words starting with a v as a w and vice versa. It's funny to me as it's obvious that they can pronounce both the v & w but it's like a form of dyslexia I guess. :???:
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Post by JR8 » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:27 pm

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ecureilx wrote:including why ICA is very vary of study mamas .... unlike before when they were the norm here ..
This is a very common mistake for those from the subcontinent. It's Wary not Vary. Very Wary. I only mention it because it's the 2nd time I've seen you do this. :wink:
Flippin eck, Professor Staple is on patrol today isn't he!


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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:30 pm

Let's just say, being married to an Indian causes ones 'earing to pick up certain traits, wot!
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Post by the lynx » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:28 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Squirrel, my wife & her siblings also do the same thing. It's part and parcel of a lot of Indian (or others from the region) to mix up their v's & w's. I've never quite figured out why. I've asked my wife and she doesn't know either. But a large portion do pronounce words starting with a v as a w and vice versa. It's funny to me as it's obvious that they can pronounce both the v & w but it's like a form of dyslexia I guess. :???:
Just like how the Chinese has some difficulty in pronouncing R's and L's, Z's and J's. But not all, not all...

OK we're getting derailed here.

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Post by JR8 » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:31 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Let's just say, being married to an Indian causes ones 'earing to pick up certain traits, wot!
Oh, well, you keeping count of Ecu's typos came on top of you reminding me this morning of something I'd forgotten from almost a year ago... lol.

By the way I think the OP should relax. Her major hurdle is ICA. ICA by their nature assume the worst motives in the majority, they have to it is their job to protect against them.

In understanding and discussing the OPs position, and how she might proceed, people here too have to start off from what ICAs thinking and position likely is. This however does not mean that people here are thinking the worst of the OPs motives.

i.e. You can repeat 'I only want the best for my son' until you are blue in the face but it will cut no ice. What ICA see is a Philippino mother and son who have no obvious means of support who want to come and live in Singapore essentially permanently.


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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:42 pm

That's the problem here. We get a certain cred here and then everybody with a problem jumps in and wants that "assurance" that all will be well. But unfortunately, there are a large number that we cannot help with, but can only give the honest truth, as we know it, so we get lamblasted for not helping. I reckon we's damned if'n we do and damned if'n we don't.

Takes a thick skin to stick around here and continue take the lashing time and time again. But, it only takes one honest thank you to make it all worth it in the end.
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