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Starhub internet connection on a Sunday

Postby BigSis » Sun, 29 Jan 2012 2:36 pm

My internet connection is always worse on a Sunday. Does anyone know if Starhub perform maintenance on Sundays?

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Postby Sir » Sun, 29 Jan 2012 2:52 pm

:lol:

i suggest you check with starhub.

Most likely more people are at home so more people using the line in your area...

If its really noticable defo call them, there may be a fault which they're not aware of

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Postby BigSis » Sun, 29 Jan 2012 7:21 pm

I tried phoning but got left in a queue which is why I posted here. I will send them an email. Just wondered if anyone else had experienced the same or had already spoken to them about it.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Sun, 29 Jan 2012 9:47 pm

BigSis wrote:I tried phoning but got left in a queue which is why I posted here.


That is definitely a seven day a week Starhub phenomenon.

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Postby nakatago » Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:03 pm

Starhub = cable internet
cable internet -> you share total bandwidth with everyone else
Sunday -> more people at home dicking around the internet

It's been really bad since the weekend prior to CNY

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Postby nutnut » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 8:45 am

+1 to what he said ^^

Also, think of all the kids at home online gaming which will use a fair bot of bandwidth up! Sunday grinds to a halt for everyone I think!
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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 8:55 am

nutnut wrote:
Also, think of all the kids at home online gaming which will use a fair bot of bandwidth up!


Games use barely any bandwidth at all. The big draw is Bit torrent and file sharing. Those will max your connection. This misconception about games is popular because they generally require low latency, or they stutter. Latency and Bandwidth are different things though.

One time I actually monitored about 3 hours of World of Warcraft. Over the three hours, the average usage was about 4KB/sec, or that of a modem from 10-15 years ago. The highest peak was 20KB/sec.

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Postby nakatago » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 9:05 am

zzm9980 wrote:
nutnut wrote:
Also, think of all the kids at home online gaming which will use a fair bot of bandwidth up!


Games use barely any bandwidth at all. The big draw is Bit torrent and file sharing. Those will max your connection. This misconception about games is popular because they generally require low latency, or they stutter. Latency and Bandwidth are different things though.

One time I actually monitored about 3 hours of World of Warcraft. Over the three hours, the average usage was about 4KB/sec, or that of a modem from 10-15 years ago. The highest peak was 20KB/sec.


Amazingly, a lot of people don't even know what bit torrent is or how it works, moreso how to use it. I'm guessing those that who do, will torrent or download regardless if it's the holidays or not.

I think what uses up bandwidth for most people here is video streaming and uploading photos to Facebook. Perhaps we can also add some iTunes download into the mix as well or browsing websites which have very heavy Flash content. How much bandwidth does Farmville use up anyway?

Either way, you'll notice Starhub slows down to a crawl at times when people tend to be actually in front of their computer doing stuff. Sure, torrenting is there but based on numbers I pulled out of my @$$, it's NOT the only reason.

Well, I'm just glad CNY week is over. Maybe my connection will finally stabilize so I can watch kitten videos in peace.

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Postby nutnut » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 9:40 am

Yes, based on my understanding of BitTorrent, I would suggest that although it may be started on a Sunday at peak time, the leeching and seeding will indeed stretch past this into the Monday at least. (depending on connections and amount of bandwidth being supplied to the download I guess!?!)

I can note that when Is tart work on Monday morning that my bandwidth is a whole lot better than when I use my PC at the weekend. Although, I have just upgraded my bandwidth with Starhub as it was sketchy, I moved up to a 50MB package and now consistently get around 20MB - I put this down to most of my traffic being global.

I see what you mean in regards to gaming, but bear in mind how many kids do do gaming and how much they probably do at the same time, depending on their game they are playing. i.e. you tube/facebook etc, when you are sitting in front of your PC gaming and there are natural breaks in the flow of play I imagine this would be the case.

Having never been a MMORPG gamer (I have kids, I simply don't have time) I am not sure of the natural breaks there would be, but I am sure there would be some!
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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 9:43 am

nakatago wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
nutnut wrote:
Also, think of all the kids at home online gaming which will use a fair bot of bandwidth up!


Games use barely any bandwidth at all. The big draw is Bit torrent and file sharing. Those will max your connection. This misconception about games is popular because they generally require low latency, or they stutter. Latency and Bandwidth are different things though.

One time I actually monitored about 3 hours of World of Warcraft. Over the three hours, the average usage was about 4KB/sec, or that of a modem from 10-15 years ago. The highest peak was 20KB/sec.


Amazingly, a lot of people don't even know what bit torrent is or how it works, moreso how to use it. I'm guessing those that who do, will torrent or download regardless if it's the holidays or not.

I think what uses up bandwidth for most people here is video streaming and uploading photos to Facebook. Perhaps we can also add some iTunes download into the mix as well or browsing websites which have very heavy Flash content. How much bandwidth does Farmville use up anyway?

Either way, you'll notice Starhub slows down to a crawl at times when people tend to be actually in front of their computer doing stuff. Sure, torrenting is there but based on numbers I pulled out of my @$$, it's NOT the only reason.

Well, I'm just glad CNY week is over. Maybe my connection will finally stabilize so I can watch kitten videos in peace.

#somesarcasmpresent
#frustrationrant
#sighofcautiousrelief


Well, I meant all file-sharing. Megaupload (until last week! hah) etc. When they're in front of their PCs, they're adding torrents into their clients. Let's just say 1-3 hours later those torrents finish and the bandwidth usage tapers off until people close the client hours or days later. Still fits that usage pattern.

I'm sure Farmville and such use very low bandwidth. I haven't played it, but I imagine the entire game's engine is stored in flash kept locally (for as long as somoene doesn't clear their Temp INternet files, which for most people is never), and only client/server communications go back and forth.

Facebook photos would be a lot of usage if you're uploading hundreds at a time. From what I see though, most people upload directly from their phone anyway.

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 9:44 am

nutnut wrote:Having never been a MMORPG gamer (I have kids, I simply don't have time) I am not sure of the natural breaks there would be, but I am sure there would be some!


Very few, you run to the bathroom at top speed as soon as a boss dies and run back immediately after :D :D I actually rarely/don't play now anymore either. This was from my slacker being-single days.

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Postby poodlek » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:04 am

nutnut wrote:
I can note that when Is tart work on Monday morning that my bandwidth is a whole lot better than when I use my PC at the weekend. Although, I have just upgraded my bandwidth with Starhub as it was sketchy, I moved up to a 50MB package and now consistently get around 20MB - I put this down to most of my traffic being global.


I have the 50MB package and consistently got 5MB :x in the evenings, monitored it for a while and when I complained to SH they sent out a technician who told me there was nothing wrong, I was getting 30+MB (my a$$) but after that it mysteriously got better. Also, we used to try (often in vain) to stream hockey games in the evenings, but now with the babe getting up between 6-7am every morning (Mr. K never starts work before 1pm) we have lots of time to watch when nobody else is in front of their computers. We stream Comedy Central in the evenings now, with few problems (but it's easier to get over hiccups in the stream in a comedy show than trying to figure out where the puck went...)

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Postby BigSis » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 7:42 pm

nutnut wrote:+1 to what he said ^^

Also, think of all the kids at home online gaming which will use a fair bot of bandwidth up! Sunday grinds to a halt for everyone I think!


LOL it's not only kids gaming............that's why I get frustrated - all that lag and the next thing I know some orc has jumped out and killed me :wink:


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