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how's the PR situation now?

Post by randomluser » Sat, 28 Jan 2012 3:22 am

hi all,

first post. hope this hasn't been answered elsewhere.

i've been working here for about 3 years. i'm on my 2nd EP for the same company. Philippines passport.

have been thinking about applying for PR. i (finally) will qualify when the beloved taxman sends me my assessment for this year.

what is the situation now?

thanks for any insights.
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Post by Mad Scientist » Sat, 28 Jan 2012 3:12 pm

Soon............ mid June ONE MORE POLICY WATCH OUT FOR THIS
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Post by randomluser » Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:32 am

hi,
do you mean more requirements will be added to PR applications come June?

or is some new housing policy gonna kick in?

thanks..

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Post by Mad Scientist » Sun, 29 Jan 2012 1:52 am

:shock: :-# :-# :-#

Just wait
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Post by jasbier » Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:45 am

wow thats scary MS, I have been waiting to apply for my citizenship. I think that will remain as a dream only lol

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Post by finn115 » Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:19 pm

Hello,

I recently applied for PEP ( Nov '11 ) and this was approved by MOM. I would like to apply for PR alongwith my spouse and have noticed that there seems to be a sudden spike in getting a PR appointment as the wait time is approx 2 months.

Profile:
Male Indian
Working in Singapore for 3.5 years in Banking/Financial Svcs
MBA (Finance)
Previously holding P2 pass for last 3 years


Profile of Spouse:
Indian
Working in Singapore for 4.5 years in Banking/Financial Svcs on a Q1 pass.

Appreciate for thoughts regarding the timing of our application.

Thanks!!!

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Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:23 pm

finn115 wrote:Hello,

I recently applied for PEP ( Nov '11 ) and this was approved by MOM. I would like to apply for PR alongwith my spouse and have noticed that there seems to be a sudden spike in getting a PR appointment as the wait time is approx 2 months.

Profile:
Male Indian
Working in Singapore for 3.5 years in Banking/Financial Svcs
MBA (Finance)
Previously holding P2 pass for last 3 years


Profile of Spouse:
Indian
Working in Singapore for 4.5 years in Banking/Financial Svcs on a Q1 pass.

Appreciate for thoughts regarding the timing of our application.

Thanks!!!
No one can judge as each application is different. Currently the people from the subcontinent are not getting approvals like before (2008).

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Post by carteki » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 5:04 pm

It seems like the PR lottery is back in action...

Was chatting to a friend and they know of a UK couple who got their PR within 4 months of application (not the usual 6) after having only been here for 12 months...

On the other hand another couple that has been here 4+ years is still waiting for an answer one year after their application was submitted

Profile, salary etc between them all seems to be similar.

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Post by Mad Scientist » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 5:44 pm

carteki wrote:It seems like the PR lottery is back in action...

Was chatting to a friend and they know of a UK couple who got their PR within 4 months of application (not the usual 6) after having only been here for 12 months...

On the other hand another couple that has been here 4+ years is still waiting for an answer one year after their application was submitted

Profile, salary etc between them all seems to be similar.
I beg to differ !!

Not similar as the one got rejected was assessed by the ICA officer whom got up on the wrong side of the bed on that morning !!

The one got approved was having a birthday present on bed !! :lol: :lol:
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 5:55 pm

MS's comment has an awful lot to do with the final outcome, believe me. I used to share the office with the US immigration officer on the 32nd floor of IP from 88-91 when I worked with the US Refugee Program under the auspices of UNHCR. We had some interesting discussion over the years. One is the fact that immigration officers are a law unto themselves. They don't have to answer to anybody and are nothing short of being demi-gods. As noted, if they get up on the wrong side of bed or came home and found someone else in their bed, you can bet, anybody who came in front of them that day were in for some sad news.

In Singapore, if you appeal your rejection, it is reviewed by the same officer, not a new one. That's why, unless you have something new AND relevant to add, don't bother.
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Post by kotry82 » Tue, 14 Feb 2012 9:49 pm

Hi everyone!

I'm new here. I wonder if someone could help me with my question. It's a rather delicate situation. To make the long story short, a Western Man recently got his PR, after living in Singapore for 5 years or so. The wife is from a country from the east. She got into trouble with the Singaporean Authorities (The Singaporean equivalent of the CIA in the US), because of certain political comments she made on the internet in an expat forum, written in a different language. Surprisingly, after two rejected PR applications, the man just got his in less than a month, after he decided to scratch out his wife from the PR application. I guess it was the case of his wife, that dragged the applicaton. His income and qualifications, are far more than enough to get a PR in a few months. He filed for divorce a week after taking her off the list. The wife has been caught with concrete evidences, for sleeping around with different men, in different countries since the last 3 years, which was the reason for divorce, although it's not stated on the divorce papers. Outside of infidelity, the case against her is still heavy, for not fulfilling her role as a "wife". She refused to sleep with her husband for the last two years but was fornicating around the globe with other men. The husband, has in custody, although not officially, her 6 year old son from a previous marriage. After the divorce, is the woman still entitled to the same dependent pass? Or will she eventually be repatriated to her country of origin? Obviously for financial reasons, the boy will stay with the husband, even if he is not his flesh and blood.

This woman recently got the citizeship, of the country of origin of her husband, that is because when he applied for it, he knew nothing about his wife's extra marital activities, which went beyond adultery. She is even guilty of fraud and falsification of documents. She made her husband believe that she was in her homeland while she was having an affair in a country not far from Singapore with a local guy. This woman refuses to leave the house even after she was caught. She's lucky the husband did not file for "Divorce by fault", since he is too kind hearted. It's actually quite a pain for the husband to still be living with her. What do you suggest he should do? He wants to get rid of this woman physically because of the mental, physical (she has been beating him and falsely pressing charges to the police that he beat her), and worse, psychologically. One cannot heal if the traces that caused this trauma is there 24 hours a day. He tried talking to her and is ready to even pay for a room or studio where she could transfer too, or even give her "share", before the signing of the papers, but she refuses to leave. Please share your insights and your advice. If I were to decide alone, since I myself, do have the concrete evidences to strip this woman off her "naturalized citizenship" or even have her imprisoned in Changi for political assaults against the Singaporean Government and trafficking illegal substances from Thailand and Indonesia.

Thank you in advance for taking time to read my post. I hope you could share some sound advice. He already consulted the lawyer that he could not forcefully ask her to leave before the divorce is pronounced. What would be a different option? Kicking her out of Singapore is the only way perhaps, although this is not his primary option. If she gets kicked out of Singapore for any reason, will that affect the divorce procedure or not?

Kind regards.

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Post by zzm9980 » Wed, 15 Feb 2012 7:18 am

Oh boy. You probably won't find good advice here.

But this article always makes me smile, and gives me a hint as to how I'd deal with her in that "western country", especially if the "Singaporean equivalent of the CIA" has investigated her:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -home.html

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Post by Mad Scientist » Wed, 15 Feb 2012 3:26 pm

kotry82 wrote:Hi everyone!

I'm new here. I wonder if someone could help me with my question. It's a rather delicate situation. To make the long story short, a Western Man recently got his PR, after living in Singapore for 5 years or so. The wife is from a country from the east. She got into trouble with the Singaporean Authorities (The Singaporean equivalent of the CIA in the US), because of certain political comments she made on the internet in an expat forum, written in a different language. Surprisingly, after two rejected PR applications, the man just got his in less than a month, after he decided to scratch out his wife from the PR application. I guess it was the case of his wife, that dragged the applicaton. His income and qualifications, are far more than enough to get a PR in a few months. He filed for divorce a week after taking her off the list. The wife has been caught with concrete evidences, for sleeping around with different men, in different countries since the last 3 years, which was the reason for divorce, although it's not stated on the divorce papers. Outside of infidelity, the case against her is still heavy, for not fulfilling her role as a "wife". She refused to sleep with her husband for the last two years but was fornicating around the globe with other men. The husband, has in custody, although not officially, her 6 year old son from a previous marriage. After the divorce, is the woman still entitled to the same dependent pass? Or will she eventually be repatriated to her country of origin? Obviously for financial reasons, the boy will stay with the husband, even if he is not his flesh and blood.

This woman recently got the citizeship, of the country of origin of her husband, that is because when he applied for it, he knew nothing about his wife's extra marital activities, which went beyond adultery. She is even guilty of fraud and falsification of documents. She made her husband believe that she was in her homeland while she was having an affair in a country not far from Singapore with a local guy. This woman refuses to leave the house even after she was caught. She's lucky the husband did not file for "Divorce by fault", since he is too kind hearted. It's actually quite a pain for the husband to still be living with her. What do you suggest he should do? He wants to get rid of this woman physically because of the mental, physical (she has been beating him and falsely pressing charges to the police that he beat her), and worse, psychologically. One cannot heal if the traces that caused this trauma is there 24 hours a day. He tried talking to her and is ready to even pay for a room or studio where she could transfer too, or even give her "share", before the signing of the papers, but she refuses to leave. Please share your insights and your advice. If I were to decide alone, since I myself, do have the concrete evidences to strip this woman off her "naturalized citizenship" or even have her imprisoned in Changi for political assaults against the Singaporean Government and trafficking illegal substances from Thailand and Indonesia.

Thank you in advance for taking time to read my post. I hope you could share some sound advice. He already consulted the lawyer that he could not forcefully ask her to leave before the divorce is pronounced. What would be a different option? Kicking her out of Singapore is the only way perhaps, although this is not his primary option. If she gets kicked out of Singapore for any reason, will that affect the divorce procedure or not?

Kind regards.
You are mixing facts with ALOT of emotions, too much of it that I find it hard to decipher

Anyway , once she is divorced she will lose her dependent pass as there is no direct connection to EP holder anymore.
For the rest of the other stuff, you need to talk to shrink or lawyers or whatever or whoever you feel necessary. Reading thru your post, I think you are more involved that it may seem to be.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 15 Feb 2012 4:26 pm

The whole thing has a pong to it. Especially considering the poster seems to be posting from Cebu City in the 'peens.
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Post by zzm9980 » Wed, 15 Feb 2012 4:56 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:The whole thing has a pong to it. Especially considering the poster seems to be posting from Cebu City in the 'peens.
The poor "Western Man"'s mistress no doubt. Hopefully there isn't an illegitimate child involved who is trying to receive schooling.

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