I feel sad when I read your comments.beppi wrote:Immigration has the right to refuse entry to anybody for any reason.
There is no sure way for her to enter, unless she got a visa approved before coming.
I have no idea why you think a "deed of separation" has any value in this matter. Immigration is not a moral watchdog and has no interest whatsoever whether the men she interfers with while in Singapore are married or not. But they do care about illegal work and prostitution. If you are paying her anything (even if only for the flights), they might even be right on this!
East Dragon wrote: From my understanding from friends, that a foreigner are not allow to stay more then 180 days per year when they gain entry for repeated visits. For easy entry, the return air ticket purchase is for 7 days. When entry is permitted, with stamp for 30 days, then we change the return ticket for full 30 days stay in Singapore.
Wrong assumption . for tax purpose is the 186 days (approx) for the guideline if you are considered resident tax rate or otherwise
For Assessment Level 11 visitors , you need a return ticket of minimum 7 days span upon your arrival
Since then, my plan for her repeated visits was 1 month entry and 1 month exit, back to back. In every single entry to Singapore, I would go to Vietnam to accompany her back to Singapore. At the same time, with her a cover letter, attached a copy of my IC and my ‘Deed of Separation’ document. These would provide her with the reasons for her repeated visits, if she would to take into the office at the airport check point.
Deed of Separation is the matter of Civil Court and has no direct purpose to the above
Immigration matters where by you are willing to sponsor her will only makes her "a person of good conduct"
Until such time you are married to her, you need to apply her a LTSVP to allow her to stay here. ICA will make you jump over hoops if they see that your marriage is a marriage of convenience
In my cover letter to the duty officer, I stated that I will take full responsibility for her well-being and stay whilst she is in Singapore. She will be staying in my address for her entire visit in Singapore. If a security bond is required by ICA, I can provide for immediate submission to ICA. I have the intention to marry her upon finalizing my divorce with my current wife.
No purpose at all
Finally on her 4th visits, after my much explaining at the airport check point, she was taken to the office. After 3 hours of waiting, the duty officer phones me. After asking me a few questions, he said that my letter is not a valid reason for her visits, she is not allowing to entry. After much apology and begging, she is permitted to entry but was base on the return ticket of 7 days, she has to leave Singapore. Although her passport stamp was 30 days but I don’t take the risk, and she return Vietnam in 7 days.
From normal SOP it will be about 6 months to a year when she is allowed to return to SG
I asked the duty for office for advice; He told me, for her repeated visit, she can purchase 30 days return tickets and every visit can be after 2 months. But her permission to entry is still subject to approval on that day of arrival by the officer at the check point. Any refuse entry is confidential, no reasons would be given.
Now 2 months have passed, I still very worry and concern of her repeated visits to Singapore. Now my plan is to visit her every 2 months without her coming to Singapore, till I settle with my divorce.
I need advice from Mad Scientist/SMS or any friends here who are well knowledge with ICA formality;
1. Is there any procedure or application I can apply for her repeated entry into Singapore? If security bond is required, I can get it done.
BIG NO unless she is married to you or she find a job here
2. If I follow the advice of the duty officer, every visit, leave Singapore for 2 months and can purchase a 30 days return ticket. Is these safe?
Roll the dice and see how it goes
3. If no, then if she would to be refused for entry at the checkpoint, would she be ban for future entry, would she be classified as undesired visitors? And would it also complicate our any application in future; married approval, PR, etc?
Yes most definitely
4. I have heard, if a female repeated visit a married man, she can be ban as an undesired visitor. Is this true? But I have show proof with ‘Deed of Separation’.
Yes BIG YES
Please help and advice with many thanks.
East Dragon wrote:Many thanks & grateful to Mad Scientist.
According to your advise, I can only allow my girlfriend to visit Singapore every 6 months or I need to settle my divorce before she can frequent repeat visit every other month.
Would the following options be possible, prior to my divorce;
1. In all her future visits, instead of visiting me, she can make a visiting to my mother house & her entire stay would be in my mother address. Would this be safer?
Which part of SVP criteria you DO NOT UNDERSTAND. NO>>>AIYOH NO LAH
2. Can she get an under writing letter with a lawyer in Singapore and to provide a security deposit to ICA, stating her genuine repeated social visit in Singapore. Or an under writing letter from Vietnam Embassy or any other government agency...etc.
3. She can apply for student pass in Singapore. But if after her student pass is expired, would our future application for married, LTSVP, PR or etc, would have complication?
Maybe not sure almost but again not sure depends on her educational uptake
Long distance relationship with other country, give many headache with the ICA. Hope all issues, have some solutions to it.
You asked for it hence you have to deal with it
Many thanks again.
Mad Scientist wrote:OK East dragon
Let me explain since you do not understand what I am trying to convey
Your GF has no relation to you in terms of immigration matters not in marriage, next of kin whatsoever hence she has to come as a SVP visitors which will gives her 30 days Stand bog visa
Although you are willing to be her guarantor but that does not mean she can extend her stay longer - I am not extend her stay longer, while she is in Singapore, if she can visit me, 30 days stay in Singapore is more then enough.
The problem lies with you as you are a Sger
Your Deed of separation has no value to ICA
Even if you are married she needs to get LTVP but marriage of convenience which is the ruse these girsl from Asia use will always be against her to get LTSVP status hence ICA will make you jump over hoops before you can get on.
Lawyers does not do one bit for you other than sucking your money away.
Is this crystal clear enough for you ?
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