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PR Profile Part 11
Inspired by a similar thread, I would like to pose similar questions. Msian chinese, University graduate, reside in UK past 2 decades, still Malaysian Chinese. PEP with a global company. Monthly salary- circa $16-18k. OH- British, US Graduate and UK graduate. On dependent pass - will apply for jobs once onshore. Daughter: 13 years of age, international British school.
Reason for wanting to apply for a PR reasonably speedily is so that we put down roots in Spore. We want to be able to buy a house, yet not quite ready to part with ABSD at 10%. Spore is going to be our home, we have decided to quit the UK forever.
So, is it worthwhile to put in an application straightaway or wait till end of the year?
Reason for wanting to apply for a PR reasonably speedily is so that we put down roots in Spore. We want to be able to buy a house, yet not quite ready to part with ABSD at 10%. Spore is going to be our home, we have decided to quit the UK forever.
So, is it worthwhile to put in an application straightaway or wait till end of the year?
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I'm betting you'll be Malaysian Chinese for the rest of your life!PrimroseHill wrote:still Malaysian Chinese
Assuming no typo in salary (and that you're still Malaysian Chinese when you apply!) you're a shoe-in after 6 months. (You didnt say how long you've been here yet)
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He would kill me if I go out and rent the cheapest 3room HDB lol. We are considering a Service Apartment for a month or 2 until the relocation services arrives with our worldly possessions, then rent a condo for ideally 6 months but thats proving expensive.zzm9980 wrote:Oh I think even Malaysian Chinese will need to give it at least 6 months. Just go rent the cheapest 3-room HDB you can find as soon as you get here for a year. It'll really make you appreciate the place you buy
So, even Msian chinese with angmoh husband and cham kid as well as applying as a family, we still have to wait for 6 months!!


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Frankly, I think you may have a problem even if you are Malaysian Chinese. Normally you would be a shoe-in. However, your historical baggage will likely cause your application to raise some eyebrows at ICA and rightly so.
Ideally, they want PR's of your flavour to become citizens. Historically, you have already shown that it's not in your plans. (20 years in the UK and still a Malaysian) This shows the gahmen here that you are only here for the benefits and not the commitment. Good luck. I feel you may need it. I hope I'm wrong.
Ideally, they want PR's of your flavour to become citizens. Historically, you have already shown that it's not in your plans. (20 years in the UK and still a Malaysian) This shows the gahmen here that you are only here for the benefits and not the commitment. Good luck. I feel you may need it. I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: PR Profile Part 11
Not sure what you mean by "PEP with a global company"? That's not how a PEP works as they aren't tied to a any specific company.PrimroseHill wrote:Inspired by a similar thread, I would like to pose similar questions. Msian chinese, University graduate, reside in UK past 2 decades, still Malaysian Chinese. PEP with a global company. Monthly salary- circa $16-18k. OH- British, US Graduate and UK graduate. On dependent pass - will apply for jobs once onshore. Daughter: 13 years of age, international British school.
Reason for wanting to apply for a PR reasonably speedily is so that we put down roots in Singapore. We want to be able to buy a house, yet not quite ready to part with ABSD at 10%. Singapore is going to be our home, we have decided to quit the UK forever.
So, is it worthwhile to put in an application straightaway or wait till end of the year?
To be honest, you haven't even got a job here, so I wouldn't even think about PR yet. You've got 6 months to secure a job on a PEP otherwise you have to leave Singapore. Also one of the requirements for a PR application is to provide last 3 year's Singapore tax returns.
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The OP has no intention of settling in Singapore on a permanent basis. She is a potential PR abuser.
In a previous post dated January 12th, she was seeking advice on whether she could consolidate her Malaysian EPF account and the Singapore CPF (when she becomes a SPR). Further on, she asked, "Am assuming that I can withdraw my entire CPF if I leave Singapore and return to UK? If I intend to go to West Malaysia from Singapore, then I am unable to do. Am I right?"
Here is the link - http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/sutra5 ... tml#565026
I took a screenshot of it for prosperity, just in case she edits the post.
From what I gather, she is looking to come to Singapore to work, get the SPR to avoid paying the 10% property stamp duty and wait out the global economic downturn. Once the global economy picks up, she will ditch her Singapore property with a nice tidy profit, renounce her SPR, cash out her CPF and return to the UK.
How am I doing so far?
In a previous post dated January 12th, she was seeking advice on whether she could consolidate her Malaysian EPF account and the Singapore CPF (when she becomes a SPR). Further on, she asked, "Am assuming that I can withdraw my entire CPF if I leave Singapore and return to UK? If I intend to go to West Malaysia from Singapore, then I am unable to do. Am I right?"
Here is the link - http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/sutra5 ... tml#565026
I took a screenshot of it for prosperity, just in case she edits the post.
From what I gather, she is looking to come to Singapore to work, get the SPR to avoid paying the 10% property stamp duty and wait out the global economic downturn. Once the global economy picks up, she will ditch her Singapore property with a nice tidy profit, renounce her SPR, cash out her CPF and return to the UK.
How am I doing so far?

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Don't you think what you explained below applies to all foreign workers / talents who come to Singapore, get their PR, build / buy their retirement properties back home and then renounce their SPR and cash out their CPF upon deciding to go back?

A little ball of fur wrote:The OP has no intention of settling in Singapore on a permanent basis. She is a potential PR abuser.
In a previous post dated January 12th, she was seeking advice on whether she could consolidate her Malaysian EPF account and the Singapore CPF (when she becomes a SPR). Further on, she asked, "Am assuming that I can withdraw my entire CPF if I leave Singapore and return to UK? If I intend to go to West Malaysia from Singapore, then I am unable to do. Am I right?"
Here is the link - http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/sutra5 ... tml#565026
I took a screenshot of it for prosperity, just in case she edits the post.
From what I gather, she is looking to come to Singapore to work, get the SPR to avoid paying the 10% property stamp duty and wait out the global economic downturn. Once the global economy picks up, she will ditch her Singapore property with a nice tidy profit, renounce her SPR, cash out her CPF and return to the UK.
How am I doing so far?
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I'm just spelling it all out to everyone again that the OP is no different in this case.sweetgazebo wrote:Don't you think what you explained below applies to all foreign workers / talents who come to Singapore, get their PR, build / buy their retirement properties back home and then renounce their SPR and cash out their CPF upon deciding to go back?![]()

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A little ball of fur wrote:The OP has no intention of settling in Singapore on a permanent basis. She is a potential PR abuser.
In a previous post dated January 12th, she was seeking advice on whether she could consolidate her Malaysian EPF account and the Singapore CPF (when she becomes a SPR). Further on, she asked, "Am assuming that I can withdraw my entire CPF if I leave Singapore and return to UK? If I intend to go to West Malaysia from Singapore, then I am unable to do. Am I right?"
Here is the link - http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/sutra5 ... tml#565026
I took a screenshot of it for prosperity, just in case she edits the post.
From what I gather, she is looking to come to Singapore to work, get the SPR to avoid paying the 10% property stamp duty and wait out the global economic downturn. Once the global economy picks up, she will ditch her Singapore property with a nice tidy profit, renounce her SPR, cash out her CPF and return to the UK.
How am I doing so far?

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Boys and Girls, tsk tsk tsk. Assumptions assumptions. I asked about those CPF questions because it is legit, simple. 20 or so years down the line, I may decide that I will have enough of the rat race and retire in some kampung fishing.
Yeah, I have the job already, job is secured. Reason for not applying for a British naturalisation as opposed to just being an Indefinite leave to remain are 2fold and rather simple in its reasonings - (a) being a Msian citizen does not afford me the privilege of dual nationality. Also travelling around the world on a Msian passport living in UK has been and is still a breeze. (b) at the back of my mind as well as my OH's we have always intend to retire to Msia, however, with the politics the way it is, Spore it will have to be and long weekends in Msia.
It is that simple. I am not going to Spore to exploit its benefits or rights afforded to its PR or citizens. Just like living here for the past 24years, I have not exploits the welfare benefits in the UK. This isn't a Daily Mail situation whereby someone has 9kids with 9different dads and the council is paying £2k per week in rent in Knightbridge.
The questions that I have asked are valid and concerns the different facets of my live, our lives. Handle it, I am sure when you guys emigrated, you guys have had considered all these as well, what happened or will happen to your NI etc. Give me a break here!!!
Yeah, I have the job already, job is secured. Reason for not applying for a British naturalisation as opposed to just being an Indefinite leave to remain are 2fold and rather simple in its reasonings - (a) being a Msian citizen does not afford me the privilege of dual nationality. Also travelling around the world on a Msian passport living in UK has been and is still a breeze. (b) at the back of my mind as well as my OH's we have always intend to retire to Msia, however, with the politics the way it is, Spore it will have to be and long weekends in Msia.
It is that simple. I am not going to Spore to exploit its benefits or rights afforded to its PR or citizens. Just like living here for the past 24years, I have not exploits the welfare benefits in the UK. This isn't a Daily Mail situation whereby someone has 9kids with 9different dads and the council is paying £2k per week in rent in Knightbridge.
The questions that I have asked are valid and concerns the different facets of my live, our lives. Handle it, I am sure when you guys emigrated, you guys have had considered all these as well, what happened or will happen to your NI etc. Give me a break here!!!
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