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Postby sweetgazebo » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 8:48 pm

A good starting point for you can be Contact Singapore ... just google these 2 words and there will be several links that will take you to this portal which has a lot of information and guidelines as to living in Singapore.


steve_kilo wrote:one more request: can anyone give me a link ,where i can find the details of living expenses in singapore..


thanks to all again:)

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Postby steve_kilo » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 9:46 pm

at zzm9980:dude thats what i wanted to know..i was in QATAR for the past 3months.i was on business visit and i got offer from an IT company..i worked with them around 2 months and the end they asked to find other job ..at the last moment i had to make an exit.(coz they cant provide me visa in Indian category)..thats the main reason i'm looking to work in singapore.coz there is not scope of IT in gulf. what if the employer gives me less amount or deducts something from my salary..can i sue the employer ?? or will i trouble.(wil the govt kick me out of singapore ???)..

at:sweetgazebo: thanks for the info sir:)

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Postby revhappy » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:07 pm

Steve_Kilo: I think I know the type of agents you are talking about. It must must be someone like Y-Axis, Canam types isn't it?

They "assist" in the visa/pr application process and charge a fee for it and they do it for many countries and not just Singapore.

Even though the agent may be genuine, why do you have to pay to get a job? Unless your skills are not good enough that you cant get a job on the basis of merit. In which case you wont last here too long anyways.

One thing about Singapore, is that most of the IT jobs are done by foreigners and employers here are very well versed with recruiting from overseas especially India, directly without any agent.

Have you done a quick search in Naukri.com or any jobsite to see if there are jobs from Singapore?

Either your employer does know that this agent is taking money from you, if your employer does know and still ok with it, they are a cheap employer and I would stay away from them

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Postby steve_kilo » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:22 pm

revhappy wrote:Steve_Kilo: I think I know the type of agents you are talking about. It must must be someone like Y-Axis, Canam types isn't it?

They "assist" in the visa/pr application process and charge a fee for it and they do it for many countries and not just Singapore.

Even though the agent may be genuine, why do you have to pay to get a job? Unless your skills are not good enough that you cant get a job on the basis of merit. In which case you wont last here too long anyways.

One thing about Singapore, is that most of the IT jobs are done by foreigners and employers here are very well versed with recruiting from overseas especially India, directly without any agent.

Have you done a quick search in Naukri.com or any jobsite to see if there are jobs from Singapore?

Either your employer does know that this agent is taking money from you, if your employer does know and still ok with it, they are a cheap employer and I would stay away from them


dude i'm confident that i will get job but there is no other way around to get a job..i must pay this agent or any other..i've checked with naukri and other website..they have job but they dont consider indian exp..and i've opted for premium service from (m.com) sorry i can't reveal the name.i guess u know the famous job consultant worldwide starting with mo letters...nywys i will try to look for more opportunites and one of our good peer here suggested me contact singapore it has huge resource of jobs and other info....thanks for the info..

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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:13 pm

steve_kilo wrote:
revhappy wrote:Steve_Kilo: I think I know the type of agents you are talking about. It must must be someone like Y-Axis, Canam types isn't it?

They "assist" in the visa/pr application process and charge a fee for it and they do it for many countries and not just Singapore.

Even though the agent may be genuine, why do you have to pay to get a job? Unless your skills are not good enough that you cant get a job on the basis of merit. In which case you wont last here too long anyways.

One thing about Singapore, is that most of the IT jobs are done by foreigners and employers here are very well versed with recruiting from overseas especially India, directly without any agent.

Have you done a quick search in Naukri.com or any jobsite to see if there are jobs from Singapore?

Either your employer does know that this agent is taking money from you, if your employer does know and still ok with it, they are a cheap employer and I would stay away from them


dude i'm confident that i will get job but there is no other way around to get a job..i must pay this agent or any other..i've checked with naukri and other website..they have job but they dont consider indian exp..and i've opted for premium service from (m.com) sorry i can't reveal the name.i guess u know the famous job consultant worldwide starting with mo letters...nywys i will try to look for more opportunites and one of our good peer here suggested me contact singapore it has huge resource of jobs and other info....thanks for the info..


Good luck dude... pay your money... you are going to get ripped off.

A very familiar scam... set up between dishonest Indians and dishonest Singaporeans... if you actually got a job and an EP, you'd get screwed by having to pay back most of your salary each month.

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Postby steve_kilo » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:48 pm

at strong eagle: thanks for the info sir,,then what is the best way to work in singapore? should i visit there and find a job or should i go for some other type of visa? what if the employer provide me S pass? plz help..i wanna work in singapore..

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Postby sweetgazebo » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:07 am

I will never understand you indians! if you say you have an interview lined up via skype why dont you just get that interview over and done with and then wait for the job offer and then the employer to sort out your EP for you?

As with the previous responses if you have to pay thru your nose to come to Singapore then you are just going to end up like how you did back in Qatar!


steve_kilo wrote:at strong eagle: thanks for the info sir,,then what is the best way to work in singapore? should i visit there and find a job or should i go for some other type of visa? what if the employer provide me S pass? plz help..i wanna work in singapore..

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Postby the lynx » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 8:34 am

steve_kilo wrote:..and i've opted for premium service from (m.com) sorry i can't reveal the name.i guess u know the famous job consultant worldwide starting with mo letters...


Sorry to be harsh, but what on earth with all that secrecy! :x

You are looking for help. We're trying to help you (we have seen a lot of people like you getting cheated trying to look for greener pasture). Yet you're not willing to share the identity of the supposedly 'famous job consultant worldwide'. And NO, giving a hint of 'starting with mo letters' and (m.com) is not even close. :?

If that consultant is so famous, no point being so secretive about it, THE WHOLE WORLD would have known it right? But no, we don't know, even an inkling.

And your information given above is so conflicting. Which is which now? :???:

Unless you straighten up and give us honest answers and info, GOOD LUCK!

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 8:50 am

Guy asks for advice, people give him advice. Guy doesn't like advice...

Not this s#!+ again...

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Postby nutnut » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 9:21 am

Just to add to all the other people in the thread saying the same thing.

It's your choice, however, my opinion on this is:

Don't pay the bent f&%^*rs a cent, if you do, expect to be royally ripped off and either a) never enter Singapore or b) have a horrendous time when you get here!

This is not the way to get employment overseas, the best way would be to apply directly for roles in Singapore and get them based on your own merit. If you have no luck doing this, there are potentially 2 reasons.

1) You aren't right (skills/experience/etc) to be employed as foreign talent
2) The government don't want you here.

I am sorry to be harsh, but you really need to look at this very very carefully, do you want to give a comparative stranger this amount of money for a service that should be free in Singapore?

If the answer is yes, go for it, I hope you are lucky, but, don't say you weren't warned.

Oh, and the other thing, if you get an EP, YOU are the only one who can collect the original, if your employer does this, then they have done so fraudulently. MOM need to take your fingerprint before you can collect, you will only get an IPA (In principle approval) before you reach the shores.
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Postby revhappy » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:13 am

steve_kilo wrote:
revhappy wrote:Steve_Kilo: I think I know the type of agents you are talking about. It must must be someone like Y-Axis, Canam types isn't it?

They "assist" in the visa/pr application process and charge a fee for it and they do it for many countries and not just Singapore.

Even though the agent may be genuine, why do you have to pay to get a job? Unless your skills are not good enough that you cant get a job on the basis of merit. In which case you wont last here too long anyways.

One thing about Singapore, is that most of the IT jobs are done by foreigners and employers here are very well versed with recruiting from overseas especially India, directly without any agent.

Have you done a quick search in Naukri.com or any jobsite to see if there are jobs from Singapore?

Either your employer does know that this agent is taking money from you, if your employer does know and still ok with it, they are a cheap employer and I would stay away from them


dude i'm confident that i will get job but there is no other way around to get a job..i must pay this agent or any other..i've checked with naukri and other website..they have job but they dont consider indian exp..and i've opted for premium service from (m.com) sorry i can't reveal the name.i guess u know the famous job consultant worldwide starting with mo letters...nywys i will try to look for more opportunites and one of our good peer here suggested me contact singapore it has huge resource of jobs and other info....thanks for the info..


:lol: I seriously dont understand why you think that paying the agent is the only way to get a job. I have no idea how it works in other countries. But in Singapore, it just works like in India,
These are the step:
Employer or the consultant acting on behalf of the employer searches for resumes on job site, contacts the candidate and then interviews are conducted offers are rolls out by the employer. Remember when I say consultant its the likes of PWC doing it for large banks etc, in case of smaller companies they do it themselves.

In case of Singapore the only additional step is the employer/consulant apply for the visa at their own cost. The consultant gets paid by the employer for their service.

Your case is very out of the ordinary, its the kind of stuff that really desperate, gullible people would resort to and exactly opposite of what you think that to land a job in Singapore you need to pay an agent.

Again, saying that Indian IT experience is not considered is totally bullshit. I came here with 7 yrs of exp and got an offer of 6.5K. I know people with lesser exp similar to yours 3.5-4yrs come here for 4.5-5.5k.

I am from India working in IT and been here for 2 and 1/2 years, and interact with lots of fellow Indian IT compatriots and spend a lot of time on forums like these. So there is some credibility in my advice, its upto you to take it or leave it.

Cheers and all the best in whatever you choose to do!

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Postby revhappy » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:59 am

the lynx wrote:
steve_kilo wrote:..and i've opted for premium service from (m.com) sorry i can't reveal the name.i guess u know the famous job consultant worldwide starting with mo letters...


Sorry to be harsh, but what on earth with all that secrecy! :x

You are looking for help. We're trying to help you (we have seen a lot of people like you getting cheated trying to look for greener pasture). Yet you're not willing to share the identity of the supposedly 'famous job consultant worldwide'. And NO, giving a hint of 'starting with mo letters' and (m.com) is not even close. :?


I think you misunderstood his post. The premium service he availed is from a jobsite mo.com is monster.com :lol:.

He hasn't divulged any clues about the agent yet.

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Postby Mi Amigo » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 1:19 pm

@ revhappy, it's good to see your posts; I was starting to wonder whether the scheme being described by the OP was the 'norm' in India. Glad to hear that it is not, although I'm sure this kind of unscrupulous behaviour goes on quite a lot in many parts of the world.

At the end of the day, recruitment consultants, agents, or whatever they want to call themselves, should (properly) earn their income from the employers who are trying to fill their vacancies, not by withholding details from candidates and demanding payment from them as a 'gatekeeper' to the job. I think that's a despicable way to make a living.

I do have sympathy for the OP; obviously he is desperately trying to find a job. But I agree with what others have said - by going along with this scam, he would be getting into a situation that is unlikely to have a happy ending.

@ steve_kilo: I think it's clear from everyone's contributions that you DO have other choices, and do NOT need to pay this parasite for the privilege of getting you a job interview. IMO, you should take control of your own destiny and try to secure a job on your own merits, not by paying people like this so-called 'agent'. I know it's not easy, but perseverance always pays off in the end.

Up to you dude and whatever path you choose, good luck.
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Postby steve_kilo » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 1:42 pm

at all: thank you guys for your help :D ..i've dropped the plan now..i will never go for any agents now..i will look for someother place or try some genuine consultant who will work free..


once again i want to thank you all:)

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Postby Mi Amigo » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 2:03 pm

Well done dude. My advice: Use the internet (LinkedIn, FB, etc.), use your contacts, and your contacts' contacts (in a polite, diplomatic, not pushy way). 'Consultants' are ten-a-penny IMHO, and only a few of them genuinely add value or will actually go out of their way to help you.

This thread may serve as a useful reference for other people in similar situations to yours in the future, so you could repay the help given here by updating your status from time to time. I hope things work out well for you.
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