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Post by JR8 » Wed, 18 Jan 2012 5:35 pm

The lack of prep work has already been discussed.

What also strikes me is the strange painting that has been done. I’m not any good with photoshop so apols...
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A) Looks like only one top-coat has been applied, as you can still see the red oxide primer. So either it is pending another coat, or the current painting is inadequate.

B) The dappled grey/white area looks like it did in the earlier photograph, i.e. as if it has been sanded down but not painted at all. Also marked with the arrow, a fleck of oxide that also appears in the orig pic.

C) Here the paint appears to have been applied so thickly that it dried with air bubbles in it. Looking closer it appears they might have carried through from the previous painting. You can see what appear to be flecks of dappling on the corner of the rail, which to me suggests this has had one coat and needs another.


All in all a really sloppy bit of work. Going out on a limb I’d suggest that the paint marks on the black object to the rear have been left by a paint roller. If that is the case that is probably the problem. The work would have been much better done using a brush!

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Post by buyan » Sat, 21 Jan 2012 8:07 pm

Seems like a lot of complicated replies for a simple issue - first, it is very obviously a crappy job; second, even if one is not a hanfyman, any tin of anti-rust paint (in fact any paint) has the surface prep instructions very clearly printed on the label. Face or no face, if the workers don't turn up with an electric sander, or a wire brush and paint scraper at the very least, they shouldn't even be allowed to start the job, and if the job was not done in accordance with the instructions on the paint tin, then it should be done again.

On the face thing, I've lived in Asia for 12 years (Philippines and China, and recently moved here) - if you think it's hard to get a good job done here, you should try the Philippines! I once knew an Australian tradesman in Manila who had a fantastic business going of doing handyman jobs for expats - he supervised his small team of well-trained locals like a hawk and guaranteed the job - you paid for it, but what a saving in frustration!

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Post by Global Player » Sun, 22 Jan 2012 8:06 pm

When I'm working with such companies I try to find a local manager who is "westernized", means has experience in working with direct cultures. With this manager you can be quite direct and he translates your complaints so that the workers understand.

Be open with that guy, talk and ask about the face thing. They are more than happy to explain the complex stuff to you. At least that's my experience.

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Post by BillyB » Sun, 22 Jan 2012 8:17 pm

JR8 wrote:The lack of prep work has already been discussed.

What also strikes me is the strange painting that has been done. I’m not any good with photoshop so apols...
Image


A) Looks like only one top-coat has been applied, as you can still see the red oxide primer. So either it is pending another coat, or the current painting is inadequate.

B) The dappled grey/white area looks like it did in the earlier photograph, i.e. as if it has been sanded down but not painted at all. Also marked with the arrow, a fleck of oxide that also appears in the orig pic.

C) Here the paint appears to have been applied so thickly that it dried with air bubbles in it. Looking closer it appears they might have carried through from the previous painting. You can see what appear to be flecks of dappling on the corner of the rail, which to me suggests this has had one coat and needs another.


All in all a really sloppy bit of work. Going out on a limb I’d suggest that the paint marks on the black object to the rear have been left by a paint roller. If that is the case that is probably the problem. The work would have been much better done using a brush!
Brilliant!

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