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Moving to Singapore

Postby fizz85 » Tue, 31 Jan 2012 8:22 pm

Sir wrote:quite a few malaysians will love in JB and commute into singapore each morning.

the singapore $ goes a very long way when converted to Ringitt, and living is unbeleivably cheap in malaysia as well.

Getting a car wil cost an arm and a leg tho, you better be prepared to handle a long commute.

You can get a special pass for the border if you do it every day, I think this is only for Malaysians tho.


This is a good idea. Another option for me to consider. Thank you. :)

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby beppi » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 1:19 am

fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 9:11 am

beppi wrote:
fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.


Lots of people sleeping on the beach in tents too. Even cheaper, and probably nicer than a Hotel 81!

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby the lynx » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 9:33 am

zzm9980 wrote:
beppi wrote:
fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.


Lots of people sleeping on the beach in tents too. Even cheaper, and probably nicer than a Hotel 81!


No, don't do that. It is illegal!

Though I won't discount the possibility that you are kidding :P

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:19 am

the lynx wrote:Though I won't discount the possibility that you are kidding :P


:P

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby fizz85 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 7:13 pm

beppi wrote:
fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.


I'm glad i asked. Thank you so much. :)

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby fizz85 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 7:16 pm

the lynx wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
beppi wrote:
fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.


Lots of people sleeping on the beach in tents too. Even cheaper, and probably nicer than a Hotel 81!


No, don't do that. It is illegal!

Though I won't discount the possibility that you are kidding :P


LMAO! Seriously, i won't mind sleeping in tents until i got my working permit done! But i doubt dey have great showers like hotel 81. :p

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby JR8 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 7:57 pm

fizz85 wrote:
beppi wrote:
fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.


I'm glad i asked. Thank you so much. :)


My impression is that you already knew it was illegal, just not what the consequences are. The way you describe it is as if this situation just came about that way by chance, but to me it suggests a clear plan to deceive the landlord from the outset.

You better tread very carefully!

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby fizz85 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 8:11 pm

JR8 wrote:
fizz85 wrote:
beppi wrote:
fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.


I'm glad i asked. Thank you so much. :)


My impression is that you already knew it was illegal, just not what the consequences are. The way you describe it is as if this situation just came about that way by chance, but to me it suggests a clear plan to deceive the landlord from the outset.

You better tread very carefully!


I seriously wasn't sure if it is illegal. Just tot i might ask and I'm glad i did. But i was hoping the benefit of the doubt. Hehe! And now i know, I sure don't want to get other people in trouble for the sake of my own. Thank you again. :)

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 8:15 pm

So you're moving out today then?

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Postby beppi » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 8:17 pm

Camping is allowed in certain areas of Pulau Ubin, Pasir Ris Park, Changi Beach, East Coast and West Coast Park. But, typically for over-regulated Singapore, you have to register and get a permit from the authorities first. And you are only allowed to camp 4 days in a month. Here's a link: http://www.axs.com.sg/phpweb/consumer/n ... permit.php

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby sweetgazebo » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 8:27 pm

As a m'asian coming into Singapore you are given 90 days on a visitor's pass.

If I were you,I'd 'bunk' with this friend of yours and use that 90 days to look for a job.

Singapore$60 / day at a hotel is going to get you a stay here in a month or less.

You have a friend who's willing to help you so take that help but get it clear with your friend that you need a roof over your head whilst you look for a job. That way, I am sure he/she will understand.

fizz85 wrote:
beppi wrote:
fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.


I'm glad i asked. Thank you so much. :)

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Postby fizz85 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 8:50 pm

JR8 wrote:So you're moving out today then?


The job recruiters have scheduled me 2 interviews on the 15th and 16th. So i'll arrive on the 13th and start breaking my leg! wait, why am i telling u all dis?!?!?1 LMAO

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby fizz85 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 9:09 pm

sweetgazebo wrote:As a m'asian coming into Singapore you are given 90 days on a visitor's pass.

If I were you,I'd 'bunk' with this friend of yours and use that 90 days to look for a job.

Singapore$60 / day at a hotel is going to get you a stay here in a month or less.

You have a friend who's willing to help you so take that help but get it clear with your friend that you need a roof over your head whilst you look for a job. That way, I am sure he/she will understand.

fizz85 wrote:
beppi wrote:
fizz85 wrote:A friend of mine whom is a singaporean, rented a room with her documentation and finally decided to let me (malaysian) stay instead. Is dat consider illegal?

Yes, that (subletting to a non-resident foreigner) is illegal and can get both your friend and the landlord into trouble.
As long as you don't have a resident visa, hotels and Serviced Apartments are the only legal options. You can get a simple room for S$60/night if you search.


I'm glad i asked. Thank you so much. :)


OMG! U just saved my life! I sent her a link of our discussion and she agrees to let me stay with her until i get my own. But there is a few things she is worried of and would like u to assist on it.
a) Will she get in trouble of letting me stay at her place even if she is willing to?
b) How do i get the visitor's pass for 90 days?
Is it given to me automatically as soon as i arrive to Singapore?
c) Do i have to specifically tell the immigration officer dat I am looking for a job in singapore?

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Re: Moving to Singapore

Postby sweetgazebo » Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:07 pm

fizz85 wrote:
sweetgazebo wrote:As a m'asian coming into Singapore you are given 90 days on a visitor's pass.

If I were you,I'd 'bunk' with this friend of yours and use that 90 days to look for a job.

Singapore$60 / day at a hotel is going to get you a stay here in a month or less.

You have a friend who's willing to help you so take that help but get it clear with your friend that you need a roof over your head whilst you look for a job. That way, I am sure he/she will understand.


OMG! U just saved my life! I sent her a link of our discussion and she agrees to let me stay with her until i get my own. But there is a few things she is worried of and would like u to assist on it.
a) Will she get in trouble of letting me stay at her place even if she is willing to?
As she's the main tenant, see if you can discuss with her and have her asked her landlord for permission for a friend who is visiting to stay (provided you have a valid pass to prove your stay) for x no of days / months.

b) How do i get the visitor's pass for 90 days?
When you arrive into Singapore, your passport will be stamped with the number of days you are allowed in the country. Be sure to get a valid Singapore address prior to entering the country so that when the immigration officials ask you, you can explain that you are visiting Singapore and staying with a friend. Assuming your job search has exhausted the no of days granted for your stay in Singapore, then do like what a lot of foreigners do - go to JB for a day and come back with a new stamp with new no of valid stay timeframe.

Is it given to me automatically as soon as i arrive to Singapore?
Please see reply to (b)

c) Do i have to specifically tell the immigration officer dat I am looking for a job in singapore?
No! And don't do that! Visitors to this country are not allowed to work unless you come here and apply for LTVP (check MOM's website on this acronym)


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