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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 8:56 am

I don't have the facts to say "yes", but the fact that they advertise different bandwidth rates for "domestic" and "international" with such large difference sure implies their backbone links aren't up to snuff. That's to be expected of course, but it's sure amplified by the 5 million heavy internet users here vs the lack of domestic online content.

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 9:26 am

zzm9980 wrote: the lack of domestic online content.


What's wrong with sto---?

---oh wait.

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Postby bobypf » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 9:49 am

zzm9980 wrote:I don't have the facts to say "yes", but the fact that they advertise different bandwidth rates for "domestic" and "international" with such large difference sure implies their backbone links aren't up to snuff. That's to be expected of course, but it's sure amplified by the 5 million heavy internet users here vs the lack of domestic online content.


Yes, exactly! The internal singaporean internet is not bad but if you want an access to the outside world, it's just plain terrible. And I don't want to read Yahoo! Singapore News only... It opens quite fast anyway. I want to download HD torrents which sometimes consist of files up to 20-25 GB!

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 9:52 am

bobypf wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:I don't have the facts to say "yes", but the fact that they advertise different bandwidth rates for "domestic" and "international" with such large difference sure implies their backbone links aren't up to snuff. That's to be expected of course, but it's sure amplified by the 5 million heavy internet users here vs the lack of domestic online content.


Yes, exactly! The internal singaporean internet is not bad but if you want an access to the outside world, it's just plain terrible. And I don't want to read Yahoo! Singapore News only... It opens quite fast anyway. I want to download HD torrents which sometimes consist of files up to 20-25 GB!


I would just like to point out that while torrenting itself is not illegal, what you torrent maybe.

Latest linux distro = cool
Latest Hollywood blockbuster = not cool
Latest cache of Wikileaks cables = er...

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Postby bobypf » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:14 am

nakatago wrote:
I would just like to point out that while torrenting itself is not illegal, what you torrent maybe.

Latest cache of Wikileaks cables = er...


Oh man, are you serious? Do you always think of what is legal and what is not? Plus, I never said what exactly I download and this is not the point here. We're talking about technology and in this case it sucks. I'm just trying to get more impressions on the singaporean internet and what are the options.

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:22 am

bobypf wrote:
nakatago wrote:
I would just like to point out that while torrenting itself is not illegal, what you torrent maybe.

Latest cache of Wikileaks cables = er...


Oh man, are you serious? Do you always think of what is legal and what is not? Plus, I never said what exactly I download and this is not the point here. We're talking about technology and in this case it sucks. I'm just trying to get more impressions on the singaporean internet and what are the options.


No but it doesn't hurt to be aware, especially on a public internet forum where government agents are known to view from time to time and probably monitor regularly as well.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:22 am

nakatago wrote:
Latest linux distro = cool
Latest Hollywood blockbuster = not cool
Latest cache of Wikileaks cables = er...


As I'm sure you know, BitTorrent is just a protocol. Like HTTP, FTP, or SMTP.

He could be downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster from some legal and MPAA sanctioned service that just uses BitTorrent on its backend to transfer the file.

For example, if I said I wanted BitTorrent to go faster because I want to download all of the awesome new games from Blizzard, I would not be describing illegal activity!

Anyway, lots of the "big" sites have presences here, or use CDNs that do. Yahoo, Facebook, Akamai, etc. Quite a large portion of the "popular" internet is served by Akamai and other CDNs.

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:27 am

zzm9980 wrote:He could be downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster from some legal and MPAA sanctioned service that just uses BitTorrent on its backend to transfer the file.


And I'm the King of Atlantis.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:35 am

nakatago wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:He could be downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster from some legal and MPAA sanctioned service that just uses BitTorrent on its backend to transfer the file.


And I'm the King of Atlantis.


Yah - just ask the King of MegaUpload... or is that MegaImplode?

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Postby bobypf » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:39 am

nakatago wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:He could be downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster from some legal and MPAA sanctioned service that just uses BitTorrent on its backend to transfer the file.


And I'm the King of Atlantis.


Haha! Actually in 99% of the cases, if you want to watch movies legally, you must stream them, not using bittorrent. The official channels like Netflix just don't provide any downloads but streaming only. Again though, this is not the point. We all know what are we talking about and we all do... stuff...

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:47 am

Strong Eagle wrote:
nakatago wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:He could be downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster from some legal and MPAA sanctioned service that just uses BitTorrent on its backend to transfer the file.


And I'm the King of Atlantis.


Yah - just ask the King of MegaUpload... or is that MegaImplode?



It always strikes me as funny how many criminals have SUCH a good setup, then screw up making such silly mistakes!!

Most corporations have strict email retention policies that are often ignored (despite how much Legal wishes you wouldn't). These policies usually tell you to erase any email after 90 days unless strictly needed. Why? So that it can't be used against you in court. If only Megaupload had such a policy and followed it, US Feds would have no case and they wouldn't be facing criminal charges.

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:47 am

bobypf wrote:
nakatago wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:He could be downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster from some legal and MPAA sanctioned service that just uses BitTorrent on its backend to transfer the file.


And I'm the King of Atlantis.


Haha! Actually in 99% of the cases, if you want to watch movies legally, you must stream them, not using bittorrent. The official channels like Netflix just don't provide any downloads but streaming only. Again though, this is not the point. We all know what are we talking about and we all do... stuff...


If they're available outside of the United States. :x

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:48 am

bobypf wrote:
nakatago wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:He could be downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster from some legal and MPAA sanctioned service that just uses BitTorrent on its backend to transfer the file.


And I'm the King of Atlantis.


Haha! Actually in 99% of the cases, if you want to watch movies legally, you must stream them, not using bittorrent. The official channels like Netflix just don't provide any downloads but streaming only. Again though, this is not the point. We all know what are we talking about and we all do... stuff...


Hey buddy I'm just trying to help out, no need to undermine my case. If you ever get arrested please don't let your lawyer put you on the stand :P

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Postby bobypf » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:51 am

zzm9980 wrote:
bobypf wrote:
nakatago wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:He could be downloading the latest Hollywood Blockbuster from some legal and MPAA sanctioned service that just uses BitTorrent on its backend to transfer the file.


And I'm the King of Atlantis.


Haha! Actually in 99% of the cases, if you want to watch movies legally, you must stream them, not using bittorrent. The official channels like Netflix just don't provide any downloads but streaming only. Again though, this is not the point. We all know what are we talking about and we all do... stuff...


Hey buddy I'm just trying to help out, no need to undermine my case. If you ever get arrested please don't let your lawyer put you on the stand :P


Relax, man. You're all so tense here! :P

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Postby Strong Eagle » Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:13 am

You'll also find that quite a lot of us respect intellectual property laws and are opposed to 'services' which allow movies, music, and books to be stolen without payment.


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