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Have accepted a job but changed my mind.big problem.how ar?

Post by sgdreamer » Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:39 pm

Hi there,

Hope someone could provide me some advice. I have recently accepted a job offer, have signed a letter of offer and the company(company 1) has also gotten my employment pass(EP2) approved. But I have yet to start work.

The predicament I am in now is that I have changed my mind and would like to instead join another company(company 2), also in Singapore. The position just opened up and was introduced by a friend who works there. I have vast experience in selling the product that they represent so this job is a good fit for me and I am interested in joining them instead.

How can I back out of the job offer I have recently confirmed? I also understand that if MOM grants an EP it is tied to the hiring company. If company 1 cancels my EP, will it affect the chances of me getting a new EP with the company 2?

Thanks lots for your advice and reply. Hope someone can help.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 25 Dec 2011 11:42 pm

It probably wont affect, but it might cost you some clams to get the 1st employer to cancel the pass as the new pass cannot be issued with the old one being canceled. If you have already signed the letter of offer, they "could" be buttholes about it and hold it for a month's resignation notice.

Additionally, the new company cannot get the approval unless the first pass has been issued. If the first has been approved but not issued, e.g., you have not started yet. You don't know if the 2nd company can even get the pass approved either (it's a two part pass process. With one approved, you already know you are okay. But the 2nd part is the employer also has to be approved for the hiring of the foreigner. Big gamble. Greed has done in more foreigners than anything else.

Good luck. You're gonna need it as the 2nd company also knows you have no loyalty so at the first sign of economic trouble, guess who's gonna go. You have already shown them your colours but agreeing to run out on your promise to the first employer.
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Post by xiaoxiaoai » Mon, 02 Apr 2012 1:25 pm

Hi, I have the same problem as well. Have signed n got EP approved from company A but yet to work. Now I get another offer from company B and I wanted to switch to B as I prefer the job scope that B offering.

I would like to ask if company A cancel the EP and then company B apply again, will I have bad record in MOM system? I heard from friend that I might have bad record in MOM system and they might not approve my next EP. And also, I don't really understand what is the term of "bad record" mean. Besides, is MOM base on my previous record of applying EP to approve my next EP? Please advice. Thanks alot~

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Post by the lynx » Mon, 02 Apr 2012 2:03 pm

xiaoxiaoai wrote:Hi, I have the same problem as well. Have signed n got EP approved from company A but yet to work. Now I get another offer from company B and I wanted to switch to B as I prefer the job scope that B offering.

I would like to ask if company A cancel the EP and then company B apply again, will I have bad record in MOM system? I heard from friend that I might have bad record in MOM system and they might not approve my next EP. And also, I don't really understand what is the term of "bad record" mean.

Technically, they will have a record of your past applications/issuances based on your FIN. Bad or good, depends on the pattern, which is actually subjective to MOM itself.

Besides, is MOM base on my previous record of applying EP to approve my next EP? Please advise. Thanks alot~

Yes. But in what way, that would be another question. If you have legit reasons to change etc and you have not been erratic in your job movement (frequency, duration etc), there's nothing you should be worried about.

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Post by xiaoxiaoai » Mon, 02 Apr 2012 2:13 pm

Honestly, I have just resigned from a company 2weeks ago, and now I got EP approved from company A then thinking to go for company B. So it is advisable that I should stick to company A? Cause if I cancel the EP again then it will become 2times of cancellation of EP within a mth, which I think is a bad record >.<

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 02 Apr 2012 3:00 pm

As an HR manager, if I know that, I'd never hire you. In fact, I wouldn't even bother interviewing you, because no matter HOW good you might be, I'd know that you are not dependable and would jump ship in a minute.

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Post by the lynx » Mon, 02 Apr 2012 3:05 pm

xiaoxiaoai wrote:Honestly, I have just resigned from a company 2weeks ago, and now I got EP approved from company A then thinking to go for company B. So it is advisable that I should stick to company A? Cause if I cancel the EP again then it will become 2times of cancellation of EP within a mth, which I think is a bad record >.<
That, my friend, is NOT a legit reason. On a hindsight, you should have thought through carefully before accepting the first offer. Government procedures are not something you can play-play with...

So how ah? You either suck it up and take offer A or make an attempt to ditch A and go for B (that if, B is able to pull you through MOM), risking yourself to a jobless limbo...

Good luck, you will need it.

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Post by xiaoxiaoai » Mon, 02 Apr 2012 3:10 pm

Alright, I understand now. Thanks for the advice~

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Post by zzm9980 » Mon, 02 Apr 2012 3:20 pm

xiaoxiaoai wrote:Alright, I understand now. Thanks for the advice~
Stick with company A, and apply for a PEP when you think you have a chance of being approved.

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