Singapore Expats Forum

Please Advice - Applying for PR Under Family Ties

Moving to Singapore? Ask our regular expats in Singapore questions on relocation and their experience here. Ask about banking, employment pass, insurance, visa, work permit, citizenship or immigration issues.

Sponsored by:
Image
The Club Residences

Simplynet2
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon, 19 Dec 2011

Please Advice - Applying for PR Under Family Ties

Postby Simplynet2 » Mon, 19 Dec 2011 8:01 pm

First I would like to thank for this great forum and all the people who share valuable information on immigration matters.

Following is my situation.

I'm a Sri Lankan citizen. Lived and studied in Singapore for the last 3 years (since DEC 2008). Obtained Bachelors degree in Computer Networks and Security. I have some other professional certifications such as CCNA and MCSE as well.

My wife is Singaporean Citizen. We married 2 yrs and 4 month ago after 3 years of relationship. Registered the marriage in Singapore. I'm currently holding a LTSVP sponsored by my wife. I got it about 5 months ago.

I'm planning to apply for PR under family ties with my wife as the sponsor. She earns $2000 basic + $700 transport allowance.

Prior to arriving in Singapore, I lived and worked in Italy for nearly 8 years. I'm currently looking for a job. However with the LTSVP finding an employer to sponsor the employment pass seems more than difficult. For this reason me and my wife decided to apply for PR for myself.

Given the above details, I would like to know your views on chances for me to get the approval for PR. One other question is currently I'm 30 yrs old, will I be able to get an exception on NS? I'm aware that If I apply PR using my wife as the sponsor, I have to register for NS.

Thanks in advance for all your replies!!!

User avatar
singaporeflyer
Manager
Manager
Posts: 1532
Joined: Mon, 17 Aug 2009

Postby singaporeflyer » Mon, 19 Dec 2011 9:16 pm

If you find a job in SG, work in it for 1-2 years then your chances would be very high.

And your reason for PR should be to settle down permanently in SG and not just to find a job.

Also read somewhere that the minimum basic salary required for a SC/PR to sponsor a dependent PR would be 2750. Earlier it was 2500. But since you already got an LTSVP I guess that factor would have been already considered.

Good Luck !

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 35167
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004
Location: Still Fishing!
Contact:

Re: Please Advice - Applying for PR Under Family Ties

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:15 pm

Simplynet2 wrote:I'm currently looking for a job. However with the LTSVP finding an employer to sponsor the employment pass seems more than difficult. For this reason me and my wife decided to apply for PR for myself.

Thanks in advance for all your replies!!!


Hopefully you won't get it as you are nothing but a PR abuser who has no intention on settling down in Singapore but just using the PR as a means to get a job. We don't need that kind of PR here. You kind have already caused unrepairable damage for the rest of us.

Simplynet2
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon, 19 Dec 2011

Postby Simplynet2 » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:53 am

@singaporeflyer,
thanks a lot for your reply. The reason for me to apply for PR is definitely to settle down in Singapore not just to get a job or PR and go away after few years. Italy was a more than a good country for me to live and work. I would never had left it if it not because I wanted to be with my wife in Singapore where she has other commitments like her old parents to look after. Having a job for a man is important where he has to look after the family and provide the needs. I tried many ways n keeps on trying to get a job whether I get PR or not. After reading some posts in this forum, Her salary was a concern for me as well anyway the fact that you stated ICA might have considered it already when they released the LTSVP gives some dim shade of hope.

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Hopefully you won't get it as you are nothing but a PR abuser who has no intention on settling down in Singapore but just using the PR as a means to get a job. We don't need that kind of PR here. You kind have already caused unrepairable damage for the rest of us.


sundaymorningstaple, Thanks a lot for your reply which is more of destructive than constructive and your wish, which didn't consider the proper facts which I provided in my post. Being the moderator of the forum, I thought you would be more intelligent and more careful with the way you put your words rather than just throwing them in the air.
Well, first of all I came to Singapore leaving Italy is to settle down with my wife after 3 yrs of long distant relationship and many visits to Singapore and 12 hours long flights during this period. If I didn't want to settle down in Singapore, why on earth I would leave a country like Italy where I had a good job and stability? Just to let you know, all of my three siblings and their families are Italian PRs living there for nearly 20 yrs. Well, the thought of me and my wife was, with PR I would be able to get a job quickly and get on with life in Singapore rather than wasting my time which I can be productive and start planning to have a Baby. Not that I get a job and vanish after few years. If I wanted to do that I wouldn't have had to move to Singapore in the first place. Well, thanks for your reply anyway!

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 35167
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004
Location: Still Fishing!
Contact:

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:57 am

I suggest you go back and read your initial post again. It's your words, not mine.

All the problems we are having today is a result of doing exactly what you espoused in your initial post. We cannot read minds and only have the written word to go by. If you have done any research on this forum you will know that is the case. In other words, a little more data, as you have now provided, would have been in order. Otherwise, you sounded like the rest of them. :?

Simplynet2
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon, 19 Dec 2011

Postby Simplynet2 » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:40 pm

@sundaymorningstaple, Thanks a lot for your advice! Sorry if my initial info was not enough for you to give a relevant reply/comment.

Actually I read through many posts in this forum before I write my initial post. I believe you will agree that, many of those such posts/cases you referred to in your post and based on which you categorized my post also, are actually spouse or dependents of a Singapore PR wanting to get PR for themselves to get a job or Work Pass holders wanting to get PR to obtain other privileges such as housing and medical benifits rather than the foreign spouse of a Singapore citizen wanting to get PR with the intention of securing a job and start planning to construct life together without hanging on the line. I read through many posts by Indians who wants to get PR and then even ask whether they can withdraw money from their CPF account if they wish to cancel PR status after some years. Well sorry, I'm not that category. I have my wife here and I have given up one heck of a lot to relocate to Singapore. I want to just be with her and get on with life. :)

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 35167
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004
Location: Still Fishing!
Contact:

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:47 pm

I'm also a PR married to a local. :wink:

Simplynet2
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon, 19 Dec 2011

Postby Simplynet2 » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 1:26 pm

I knew you were a PR from your very first reply to my post though I didn't guess that you were married to a Singapore citizen. Anyway plus point is that I think you can imagine the stress of not being able to get on with life due to the factors that one can not control but keep on trying hoping for the better. It kind of like sucks but that is the truth for many foreign spouses of Singapore citizens. Sad to say, Too bad!

User avatar
Mad Scientist
Director
Director
Posts: 3459
Joined: Thu, 03 Dec 2009
Location: TIMBUKTU

Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 3:12 pm

Simplynet2 wrote:I knew you were a PR from your very first reply to my post though I didn't guess that you were married to a Singapore citizen. Anyway plus point is that I think you can imagine the stress of not being able to get on with life due to the factors that one can not control but keep on trying hoping for the better. It kind of like sucks but that is the truth for many foreign spouses of Singapore citizens. Sad to say, Too bad!


This is the bain of marrying to a local be it a local woman or man. Persevere is the key. At least you have LTSVP. Try to get longer LTSVP validity is the first step. At least you are not Indian per se.
You studied here under Gahmen bond or you pay yourself ?
The positive thinker sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible.Yahoo !!!

Simplynet2
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon, 19 Dec 2011

Postby Simplynet2 » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 4:26 pm

@Mad Scientist
No I didn't study under Gov Bond. I used my own money to pursue studies. Well, ya one good thing is that I have LTSVP at least. Some people didn't even have the privilege to get that for various reasons and go through lot of mental stress and trouble living in two places. I have LTSVP with one year validity.

One other question I'm having is that let's say I applied for PR and in the mean time if I get a offer from a company to hire me, will that have a negative effect on PR application or EP application, if the company apply for an employment pass for me while the PR is being processed?

User avatar
singaporeflyer
Manager
Manager
Posts: 1532
Joined: Mon, 17 Aug 2009

Postby singaporeflyer » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 4:30 pm

Simplynet2 wrote:@Mad Scientist
No I didn't study under Gov Bond. I used my own money to pursue studies. Well, ya one good thing is that I have LTSVP at least. Some people didn't even have the privilege to get that for various reasons and go through lot of mental stress and trouble living in two places. I have LTSVP with one year validity.

One other question I'm having is that let's say I applied for PR and in the mean time if I get a offer from a company to hire me, will that have a negative effect on PR application or EP application, if the company apply for an employment pass for me while the PR is being processed?


If you are without a Job during your PR application and while it is being processed, if you manage to get a job (thro EP) and then update ICA, it adds value as you have a job in SG. How much value added, I am not sure.

User avatar
Mad Scientist
Director
Director
Posts: 3459
Joined: Thu, 03 Dec 2009
Location: TIMBUKTU

Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 20 Dec 2011 4:47 pm

Simplynet2 wrote:@Mad Scientist
No I didn't study under Gov Bond. I used my own money to pursue studies. Well, ya one good thing is that I have LTSVP at least. Some people didn't even have the privilege to get that for various reasons and go through lot of mental stress and trouble living in two places. I have LTSVP with one year validity.

One other question I'm having is that let's say I applied for PR and in the mean time if I get a offer from a company to hire me, will that have a negative effect on PR application or EP application, if the company apply for an employment pass for me while the PR is being processed?


I can only account to what my kid brother did for her foreign wife. Married overseas. Children borned overseas . All three boys. Returned back to SG and all children gained SG citizenship but his wife did not. She only got 6 months LTSVP for the next 5 years. Only then she managed to get 2 years LTSVP. After living in SG more than 10 years now, she applied for PR and was successful. Her previous four attempts failed.
From MP to PM to all the BS officials, does not worth a single weight. BTW my brother was an ex-cop. So you can take this with a pinch or handful of salt anyway you like it.
You can try as it does not hurt
The positive thinker sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible.Yahoo !!!

Simplynet2
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon, 19 Dec 2011

Postby Simplynet2 » Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:36 am

Mad Scientist wrote:I can only account to what my kid brother did for her foreign wife. Married overseas. Children borned overseas . All three boys. Returned back to SG and all children gained SG citizenship but his wife did not. She only got 6 months LTSVP for the next 5 years. Only then she managed to get 2 years LTSVP. After living in SG more than 10 years now, she applied for PR and was successful. Her previous four attempts failed.
From MP to PM to all the BS officials, does not worth a single weight. BTW my brother was an ex-cop. So you can take this with a pinch or handful of salt anyway you like it.
You can try as it does not hurt


Ya I will give it a try. Let's see what is the outcome. From number of cases I read in the forum, I can understand that ICA authorities have their own way of looking at PR applications when it comes to approve or reject. Some ppl get approval in no time and others with even high pay and good job, keeps on waiting and trying one attempt after the other.
In the meantime I will cont my job search.....


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Relocating, Moving to Singapore”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest