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Postby nutnut » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:42 pm

Doesn't exist in the current political make up of the country, therefore, the country is doomed!

I am going to ask something a little bit out of the box here, but do you think that there is too much decision given to the masses in UK? Do you think the country would benefit from someone to make some decisions and changes for them without fear of lobbyists and losing votes?

:O :o
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Postby BillyB » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 1:32 pm

nutnut wrote:Doesn't exist in the current political make up of the country, therefore, the country is doomed!

I am going to ask something a little bit out of the box here, but do you think that there is too much decision given to the masses in UK? Do you think the country would benefit from someone to make some decisions and changes for them without fear of lobbyists and losing votes?

:O :o


Don't think too hard or you'll frazzle that peanut brain of yours.....

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Postby nutnut » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 1:45 pm

BillyB wrote:Don't think too hard or you'll frazzle that peanut brain of yours.....


Fair point, I am a bit out of my depth with all this hardcore politics mumbo jumbo to be honest with you, I don't know why I bothered getting involved in the first place.

Maybe I'll just move back to UK and claim DLA for the fact I'm too stupid to do anything else.
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Postby BillyB » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 1:47 pm

nutnut wrote:
BillyB wrote:Don't think too hard or you'll frazzle that peanut brain of yours.....


Fair point, I am a bit out of my depth with all this hardcore politics mumbo jumbo to be honest with you, I don't know why I bothered getting involved in the first place.

Maybe I'll just move back to UK and claim DLA for the fact I'm too stupid to do anything else.
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Postby nutnut » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 1:56 pm

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Postby buyan » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:28 pm

I'm all for people having to actually DO something to get welfare - pick up papers (and pay by the kilo) or plant trees (pay by number), scrub graffiti...whatever. Better stop myself before I get angry, and go to bed!!

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 1:07 am

nutnut wrote:
I am going to ask something a little bit out of the box here, but do you think that there is too much decision given to the masses in UK?

Hahahahaha.... you reckon. If they even listened to people's opinions there would be capital punishment, illegals out, and us out of the EU tomorrow. But none of this will ever happen.

Jeez, they've not even done anything they promised in their manifesto, which customarily is the starting point!


Do you think the country would benefit from someone to make some decisions and changes for them without fear of lobbyists and losing votes?

:O :o

You mean a Maggie? Yes we need one, will it happen, no chance.



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Postby nutnut » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 8:34 am

JR8 wrote:
nutnut wrote:
I am going to ask something a little bit out of the box here, but do you think that there is too much decision given to the masses in UK?

Hahahahaha.... you reckon. If they even listened to people's opinions there would be capital punishment, illegals out, and us out of the EU tomorrow. But none of this will ever happen.

Jeez, they've not even done anything they promised in their manifesto, which customarily is the starting point!


This is not quite what I meant, it would be good to speak to the people in this respect, but I was thinking that if the leadership didn't have to worry about getting votes, rather just fixed the bloody mess they are in at the minute for 10 years then what would happen?

Do you think the country would benefit from someone to make some decisions and changes for them without fear of lobbyists and losing votes?

:O :o

You mean a Maggie? Yes we need one, will it happen, no chance.
Yes, exactly what I meant, the likes of the Iron Lady will never be seen again.



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Postby BillyB » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:10 am

nutnut wrote:
JR8 wrote:
nutnut wrote:
I am going to ask something a little bit out of the box here, but do you think that there is too much decision given to the masses in UK?

Hahahahaha.... you reckon. If they even listened to people's opinions there would be capital punishment, illegals out, and us out of the EU tomorrow. But none of this will ever happen.

Jeez, they've not even done anything they promised in their manifesto, which customarily is the starting point!


This is not quite what I meant, it would be good to speak to the people in this respect, but I was thinking that if the leadership didn't have to worry about getting votes, rather just fixed the bloody mess they are in at the minute for 10 years then what would happen?

Do you think the country would benefit from someone to make some decisions and changes for them without fear of lobbyists and losing votes?

:O :o

You mean a Maggie? Yes we need one, will it happen, no chance.
Yes, exactly what I meant, the likes of the Iron Lady will never be seen again.





All we get is limp dick Cameron and his public schoolboy brigade who couldn't run a bath!

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Postby nutnut » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:07 am

Yes, this is my point, "the policy spread betting" that appears to be happening in the UK is bringing the flimsiest politicians the country have ever seen, they are all trying to do the one thing you should never try to do..... Please everyone all of the time!

This is the unfortunate result of democracy. Do you agree?
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Postby BillyB » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:24 am

nutnut wrote:Yes, this is my point, "the policy spread betting" that appears to be happening in the UK is bringing the flimsiest politicians the country have ever seen, they are all trying to do the one thing you should never try to do..... Please everyone all of the time!

This is the unfortunate result of democracy. Do you agree?


Nothing wrong with democracy; the real issue is the UK is royally f*cked and well past the point of no-return. It's been run by kiss arses and inept muppets who have either followed the US lead on everything or been so self-righteous (Gordon Brown) that they have defied everything that basic economics outlines for stability. 'Capitalism rules' approach - only because the Government have been too stupid and incompetent to intervene - 'Make hay while the sun shines'. Everything has to be so black and white - nothing can be a hybrid - it's either capitalism or communism. It's so dated. Politicians are uninspiring, disconnected, and downright boring. The West is screwed for the next 5-10 years, and still they think borrowing their way out of this mess is the solution.

Anyway, it's Friday!!.......

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Postby nutnut » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:32 am

Hooray for Friday, I think a cycle on East Coast Park this evening with my son is in order.
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Postby JR8 » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 5:28 pm

BillyB wrote:The West is screwed for the next 5-10 years, and still they think borrowing their way out of this mess is the solution.
Anyway, it's Friday!!.......


... and the irony is that whilst UK borrowing flies away to ever-record levels, this is being pitched as cuts and austerity. :?


NutNut:
This is the unfortunate result of democracy. Do you agree


I don't think having the LibDems in the coalition helps. I don't think the problem in the UK is democracy, quite the opposite democracy is what it needs. Power to the people! :)

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 5:35 pm

does this help ?? :D :D

The foreigners being paid £2billion in benefits a year including 371,000 on the dole (and 5,000 claiming £42m in illegal handouts)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1jzPlroKq

:D :D

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 6:11 pm

Good spot Ecu, I was going to post that article as well. Here's a link to the Telegraph story...

'370,000 migrants on the dole
More than 370,000 migrants who were admitted to Britain to work, study or go on holiday are now claiming out-of-work benefits, according to official figures compiled for the first time.'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... efits.html

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So, come to the UK on holiday. When your visa expires don't leave, but instead get housing and benefits for life for free. Ain't life grand!


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