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Re-applied PR after failed to collect it for the first time

Postby dhijho » Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:14 am

Dear All,

This is my first post in the forum.

I am an Indian working in IT in singapore for past 6 years. I have applied PR with my wife
(immediately after our marraige) in Oct 2009. The PR got approved for both of us in May 2010, but unfortunately my
wife could not collect her PR, as she was in India for delivery.

We enquired MOM after her return to singapore (Nov 2010) and they have told, the validity expired
and have to apply for new one. We have re-applied PR for my wife and my daughter on Mar 2011
stating the reason why we did not collect it for the first time. Its still under process for
past 9 months.

I am planning to buy home in singapore and we are waiting for her PR approval. Do we
need to approach our MP for the approval ?


Pl advice.


Thanks!

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Postby revhappy » Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:58 am

Do you think this is India, that you take a politician's recommendation to get everything done? :lol:

You are not even a local, why do you think an MP should help you? Especially now that there is so much anguish against foreigners.

I will be interested to know, though, what the MP will tell you if you go to him asking for help. Please remember to tell him that you need to buy HDB soon. :lol:

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Re: Re-applied PR after failed to collect it for the first t

Postby ecureilx » Mon, 05 Dec 2011 1:28 pm

dhijho wrote:
Thanks!


You could approach the MP, if you have been immersing yourself in some form of community program .. and have some direct communication with the MP, but, then again, when a cousin of mine, who spends every weekend in some community work or otherwise, got a letter from the MP, and ICA still rejected his wife's LTVP.

So - well, in my opinion, it may NOT work .. :(

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Postby BillyB » Mon, 05 Dec 2011 1:36 pm

ecureilx wrote:
dhijho wrote:
Thanks!


You could approach the MP, if you have been immersing yourself in some form of community program .. and have some direct communication with the MP, but, then again, when a cousin of mine, who spends every weekend in some community work or otherwise, got a letter from the MP, and ICA still rejected his wife's LTVP.

So - well, in my opinion, it may NOT work .. :(


You've got your tentacles spread into a lot of pies!

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 05 Dec 2011 1:46 pm

The question everybody will ask is why ICA was not approached at the time the approval was getting closer to its expiration date. Unless there was a solid reason for this (I can not imagine any) anything else including her delivery would be IMHO secondary. You gave a strong signal you (or your wife) were either:
- not really THAT interested in PR
- could not handle an uncomplicated situation

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 05 Dec 2011 2:10 pm

BillyB wrote:You've got your tentacles spread into a lot of pies!


I try .. I try .. :D :D

And well, another colleague, who is a Singaporean, went to ICA with a letter from his MP, for LTVP for his foreign wife .. too got 'rejected'

Ah, yes, no two applications are the same.. ..

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Postby dhijho » Sat, 17 Dec 2011 6:09 pm

revhappy wrote:Do you think this is India, that you take a politician's recommendation to get everything done? :lol:

You are not even a local, why do you think an MP should help you? Especially now that there is so much anguish against foreigners.

I will be interested to know, though, what the MP will tell you if you go to him asking for help. Please remember to tell him that you need to buy HDB soon. :lol:


Stop racial discrimination adn aware this is a public forum. can your confirm there is no referal letters given? I heard it through one of my friend and asking whether it will work out ? pl be polite

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:22 pm

dhijho wrote:
revhappy wrote:Do you think this is India, that you take a politician's recommendation to get everything done? :lol:

You are not even a local, why do you think an MP should help you? Especially now that there is so much anguish against foreigners.

I will be interested to know, though, what the MP will tell you if you go to him asking for help. Please remember to tell him that you need to buy HDB soon. :lol:


Stop racial discrimination adn aware this is a public forum. can your confirm there is no referal letters given? I heard it through one of my friend and asking whether it will work out ? pl be polite


You didn't answer his question. Can you confirm there is. Frankly referral letters from MP don't do a damned bit of good. Not even for Citizens here trying to get LTVPs for their spouses. MOM & ICA are not beholden to any MP regardless of his name. Racial discrimination aside, if you are an Indian you are in for a rough time as Indians are not too particularly liked in Singapore at the moment due primarily to the rampant abuse of the system here. Heck for that matter, they are not liked anywhere all that well, judging by news reports this past year from the UK & Australia. So what if this is a public forum. What does that have to do with anything?

Oh, as far as racial discrimination is concerned, you think getting told off by another Indian on this forum is racial discrimination? Wait till you get here, and the Chinese landlord hangs up on you when he here's your voice, or you see newspaper rental ad specifying "No Indians". If you are planning on coming here, I'd suggest you grow a few more layers of skin.

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Postby dhijho » Wed, 21 Dec 2011 3:05 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
dhijho wrote:
revhappy wrote:Do you think this is India, that you take a politician's recommendation to get everything done? :lol:

You are not even a local, why do you think an MP should help you? Especially now that there is so much anguish against foreigners.

I will be interested to know, though, what the MP will tell you if you go to him asking for help. Please remember to tell him that you need to buy HDB soon. :lol:


Stop racial discrimination adn aware this is a public forum. can your confirm there is no referal letters given? I heard it through one of my friend and asking whether it will work out ? pl be polite


You didn't answer his question. Can you confirm there is. Frankly referral letters from MP don't do a damned bit of good. Not even for Citizens here trying to get LTVPs for their spouses. MOM & ICA are not beholden to any MP regardless of his name. Racial discrimination aside, if you are an Indian you are in for a rough time as Indians are not too particularly liked in Singapore at the moment due primarily to the rampant abuse of the system here. Heck for that matter, they are not liked anywhere all that well, judging by news reports this past year from the UK & Australia. So what if this is a public forum. What does that have to do with anything?

Oh, as far as racial discrimination is concerned, you think getting told off by another Indian on this forum is racial discrimination? Wait till you get here, and the Chinese landlord hangs up on you when he here's your voice, or you see newspaper rental ad specifying "No Indians". If you are planning on coming here, I'd suggest you grow a few more layers of skin.


Agree, i would not have posted about the referrals. Some one guided me wrongly. Dis agree for your 'No indians' terminology! Does sg wants indians only to build sg ? and not to be part of it .This should be dealt separately. This topic is opened to discuss my changes of getting PR. Pl discuss only that!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 21 Dec 2011 3:15 pm

This is not a moderated forum therefore it's liable to take any tangent it wants. That's the way of unmoderated forums. We only have one moderated forum on this board. This ain't it. :cool:

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 21 Dec 2011 3:22 pm

dhijho wrote:... This topic is opened to discuss my changes of getting PR. Pl discuss only that!


You do sound like my Drill Master / RSM .. :P :P

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 21 Dec 2011 3:24 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:This is not a moderated forum therefore it's liable to take any tangent it wants. That's the way of unmoderated forums. We only have one moderated forum on this board. This ain't it. :cool:



@dhijho:

Well, technically we still moderate but not so much when it comes to topic flow. Moderation is for good behavior; most other things are fair game. It keeps the community vibrant.

:)

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Re: Re-applied PR after failed to collect it for the first t

Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 22 Dec 2011 4:48 am

dhijho wrote:Dear All,
The PR got approved for both of us in May 2010, but unfortunately my
wife could not collect her PR, as she was in India for delivery.

We enquired MOM after her return to singapore (Nov 2010) and they have told, the validity expired
Thanks!


I waited and waited and... waited to get an answer for you and now.............(drum rolling.............)
You got it screwed up man. You should have informed ICA and MOM the minute you got the PR approved that your wife was in India having her child birth. The minute you came back and inquire , your name and your whole family is at the last of the bottomless pit of those "thatdon'tgiveahootaboutwhatPRmeans"

ICA and MOM are not that cruel and they can extend your PR expiry date until you came back to SG. The fact is YOU DID NOT DO THAT so said the soothsayer
The positive thinker sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible.Yahoo !!!

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Re: Re-applied PR after failed to collect it for the first t

Postby dhijho » Thu, 29 Dec 2011 5:29 pm

Mad scientist wrote:ICA and MOM are not that cruel and they can extend your PR expiry date until you came back to SG. The fact is YOU DID NOT DO THAT so said the soothsayer


Yes i approached MOM on May 2009, and explained the reason for not collecting my wife's PR (provided my wife's medical certificates). They gave 3 months extension (Aug 2009), but unfortunately she could not collect by Aug also ( she has undergone cesarion delivery in India on Jul 26th and doctor advised not to travel)

We have explained all the reason's in our second time application. Its already crossed 9 months. What will be the chances ?

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Re: Re-applied PR after failed to collect it for the first t

Postby zzm9980 » Thu, 29 Dec 2011 8:58 pm

dhijho wrote:
Mad scientist wrote:ICA and MOM are not that cruel and they can extend your PR expiry date until you came back to SG. The fact is YOU DID NOT DO THAT so said the soothsayer


Yes i approached MOM on May 2009, and explained the reason for not collecting my wife's PR (provided my wife's medical certificates). They gave 3 months extension (Aug 2009), but unfortunately she could not collect by Aug also ( she has undergone cesarion delivery in India on Jul 26th and doctor advised not to travel)

We have explained all the reason's in our second time application. Its already crossed 9 months. What will be the chances ?


And you really thought with a due-date of late July you'd be able to get her back on a plane to Singapore (with new kid) to collect PRs? Why didn't you contact MOM again? Everything in your PR application can weigh for or against you, and they likely monitor all kinds of criteria you wouldn't even imagine. Including personal responsibility.

Unfortunately none of us work for MOM, or have the PDF they publish with the percentages on various factors for PR approvals. (You can check your favorite torrent site for it though)


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