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S Pass is expired

Postby anhmytl » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 3:53 pm

Hi all,

Quick question. I must leave Singapore before my s pass is expiring? Do I have short term visit pass after s pass is expired? The company is not going to renew the pass.

Sorry guys. My English is not very well.

Thanks
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Re: S Pass is expiried

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 4:31 pm

anhmytl wrote:Hi all,

Do have short term visit pass after s pass is expired?


Yes

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Postby anhmytl » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 4:40 pm

@sundaymorningstaple: thank you for your reply

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Postby bigcanly » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 6:16 pm

Thank for mod. Strong help of mod will create funny about member. :)

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Postby BillyB » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 6:59 pm

bigcanly wrote:Thank for mod. Strong help of mod will create funny about member. :)


That was exactly what I was going to say :o

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 7:18 pm

bigcanly wrote:Thank for mod. Strong help of mod will create funny about member. :)


One should never provoke a moderator. It makes them wonder why you registered just to post such a silly statement when your ISP is Vung Tau, Vietnam. Oop! I think I just blew your cover. Now you can wave bye-bye to all the folks here before you ever get to post your first spam link. :wave: :devil:

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Postby BillyB » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 7:33 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
bigcanly wrote:Thank for mod. Strong help of mod will create funny about member. :)


One should never provoke a moderator. It makes them wonder why you registered just to post such a silly statement when your ISP is Vung Tau, Vietnam. Oop! I think I just blew your cover. Now you can wave bye-bye to all the folks here before you ever get to post your first spam link. :wave: :devil:


You understood that?!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 8:19 pm

Nah, not a clue! but when it's the poster's first post and smarting off, if you've been here long enough, you can catch a whiff of the pong of the excrement of a would be spammer. Sooooo, we get curious & check the IP addy and usually, we're spot on. :wink:

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Re: S Pass is expiried

Postby the lynx » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 9:32 pm

anhmytl wrote:Hi all,

Quick question. I must leave Singapore before my s pass is expiring? Do I have short term visit pass after s pass is expired? The company is not suppose to renew the pass.

Thanks


Funny, why isn't your company SUPPOSED to renew the pass?

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Postby Asdracles » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:18 pm

I guess that not everybody speaks English as well as you. But I understood his point very clearly, even with that mistake, so I don't see any reason to find the fun in his comment.

Let's rephrase it as "company is not expected to renew the pass", "company is not going to renew the pass", ....

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Postby the lynx » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:58 pm

Asdracles wrote:I guess that not everybody speaks English as well as you. But I understood his point very clearly, even with that mistake, so I don't see any reason to find the fun in his comment.

Let's rephrase it as "company is not expected to renew the pass", "company is not going to renew the pass", ....


Oh no no no, I don't mean that (my English is not superb either) :P

I was curious on what did he meant by saying that his company is not supposed to renew his pass. Was it because of restriction or something? Or maybe like you said, "company is not going to renew the pass".

My bad.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:57 am

the lynx wrote:I was curious on what did he meant by saying that his company is not supposed to renew his pass. Was it because of restriction or something? Or maybe like you said, "company is not going to renew the pass".

My bad.


Because I came across many a people who religiously believe that their contracts are only for one term, through the agent, and the employer "MUST NOT RENEW THE PERMIT" - >>> these are the psycho drama by the agencies, who instill a sense of serious fear lest they or the employer break the "RULE"

Like the "YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK IN SINGAPORE FOR 24 MONTHS UPON TERMINATION OF CONTRACT" etc. etc. which a lot of law abiding foreigners believe - oh, such terms can be overcome by paying another placement fee to the same agent and get another employer and forego another 6 months salary to the agency .. agency happy, employer has no clue, the worker/s-pass holder thinks they are doing the right thing and following 'strict laws in Singapore .. '

Sad to say, it is a money sucking business a lot are caught up with

Or I could be totally wrong :) I came up with the explanation, as the OP said "S PASS" and primarily it is the S Pass holders who are earning much more than back home, but, still loosing out a lot of $ to the agencies, and terrified and terrorised by the agents ..

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Postby the lynx » Mon, 28 Nov 2011 3:37 pm

ecureilx wrote:
the lynx wrote:I was curious on what did he meant by saying that his company is not supposed to renew his pass. Was it because of restriction or something? Or maybe like you said, "company is not going to renew the pass".

My bad.


Because I came across many a people who religiously believe that their contracts are only for one term, through the agent, and the employer "MUST NOT RENEW THE PERMIT" - >>> these are the psycho drama by the agencies, who instill a sense of serious fear lest they or the employer break the "RULE"

Like the "YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK IN SINGAPORE FOR 24 MONTHS UPON TERMINATION OF CONTRACT" etc. etc. which a lot of law abiding foreigners believe - oh, such terms can be overcome by paying another placement fee to the same agent and get another employer and forego another 6 months salary to the agency .. agency happy, employer has no clue, the worker/s-pass holder thinks they are doing the right thing and following 'strict laws in Singapore .. '

Sad to say, it is a money sucking business a lot are caught up with

Or I could be totally wrong :) I came up with the explanation, as the OP said "S PASS" and primarily it is the S Pass holders who are earning much more than back home, but, still loosing out a lot of $ to the agencies, and terrified and terrorised by the agents ..


Woah, never heard of such blatant atrociousness! Is it even legal?

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 28 Nov 2011 3:44 pm

the lynx wrote:Woah, never heard of such blatant atrociousness! Is it even legal?


Legal or not is besides the point ..

The truth is, it happens, is happening, and is happening as I write this.

Just yesterday I met some staff employed in a 'resort' and all of them are on 1 year contract, and with strict instructions from the agent that they will NOT SEEK DIRECT EMPLOYMENT WITH THE EMPLOYER, OR WILL COME TO WORK IN SINGAPORE FOR 12 Months after termination of contract, unless they are re-employed through the same agent ONLY. This came out when I asked them if they are looking at other opportunities when their contract expires, and all of them were terrified of the thought of breaching such terms.

I don't know how enforceable or fair it is. Maybe somebody who is in HR (SMS ???) can advice if such a private contract is blatant violation of any and all MOM LAW .. almost it is modern day slavery ..

No words .. says me ..

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 28 Nov 2011 4:47 pm

The agents they are contracted with are not Singapore companies. Therefore the are beyond the reach of MOM and ICA. Usually there is a tie-up with a local agency here in Singapore, but you can bet the tie-up is hidden very well and the "kickbacks" are of the cash nature so they cannot be traced. It's doubtful that the money even moves electronically as there are electronic trails. It's cash and laundered. Can the employee break the contract once they are in Singapore? Sure. Just don't go home, or don't leave you family in your home country. They are like ah longs here in Singapore. Bad things can happen to your loved ones if one is not careful.


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