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Urgent questions - please advice!

Postby miaolove123 » Tue, 22 Nov 2011 9:54 am

Hello all,

I currently have a very complicated problem related to my pass application. Six months ago (May 2011), i graduated with 2nd class upper hons degree. I used that degree to apply for jobs in Sing. There was a company applied EP for me. Almost at the same time, the university, which I graduated from, informed me about the error in my examination results. According to the school, I should have been awarded the 1st class hons degree.

After I heard that, I immediately called my employer to ask him withdraw my application since my certificate was wrong. He did it and also cancel the job offer. Then I went back to my school to get my cert (the correct one). A month later I eventually got my correct degree cert (with 1st class hons).

In Oct 2011, I succeeded to apply for a new job in a different company. And when they applied EP for me, then my EP got rejected (on the spot-according to what they told me). I asked the company to clarify this issue with MOM, then MOM said the reason was confidential.

So now my question is:
1. Is it because for the 1st time application, my education qualification was 2nd class upper hons degree and now it is 1st class hons degree? So it is inconsistent in MOM database?
2. If my concern is true then what should I do to proof my qualification since it wasn't my fault of wrong information?

Many thanks to your helps!

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Postby nasgirl » Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:04 am

hi,

i dont think u been rejected is cos ur result become better now.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:39 am

nasgirl,

If you don't have a clue about what you're talking about, leave it for others to answer. :roll:

The EP was never issued. You would do well to actually read the OP's post carefully.

i dont think u been rejected is cos ur result become better now.
the reason shld be, u cancelled ur EP b4 it expiry.


What 6 months contract with what company? There is no requirement to work a minimum of 6 months and as the original EP application was withdrawn with having been approved or issued, it is of nil concern.

and u applying again, after the General Election ,
i think they will be more strict on it, as well as reject those didnt fulfill the 6 month contract with company.


miaolove123,

Rejections by MOM now usually come with an explanation (although the explanation usually leave more to question than not). You must understand one thing though, the application process is a two part process. First of all, you need to have the relevant educational qualifications (have you checked the EPEC qualifying university listings on the MOM website?). Assuming you have a suitably qualified degree, then you would not be rejected for qualifications. However, the 2nd part of the processs is out of your control. This might be a problem of the employer (as you noted, it's not the same employer originally applied through). The employer HAS to convince MOM that they need to hire a foreigner because of the nature of the position, or there are insufficient local/PR with suitable qualifications available. Additionally, if you didn't have/get an EPEC, then hiring you, as a fresher, is not likely to see you being accepted. There are heaps of local fresh graduates so it's unlikely that the company could justify it.

You also did not indicate whether the first application was approved or was just "submitted" or "pending" or "processing" before it was withdrawn. I'm assuming an AIP was never issued.

As a fresh graduate, you are going to find that getting a job in Singapore is rather difficult at the moment, if not virtually impossible. You have nothing to offer a company except a piece of paper that says you know how to take tests. But no real experience to justify hiring a foreigner.

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Postby miaolove123 » Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:39 pm

Hi thanks for your reply

At the moment when I received the notice from my university about the changing in my hons class, my first pass application was in the "pending" status. then after that it was a withdrawal from my 1st employer. so to say I did not hold any type of working pass until today.


My university is on the list of MOM. I have an adequate qualification. I'm just worried about they might see my application information is different from what they have had in their database. Could it be a reason?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 22 Nov 2011 1:23 pm

Nah. I'm inclined to think the problem is the lack of experience. It's hard to justify hiring someone from overseas who has no experience, to work in a country that has heaps of highly qualified new grads as well. This especially so in a tight job market and in a country with too many foreigners already, with the government trying to thin them out as fast as possible.

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Postby richie303 » Tue, 22 Nov 2011 1:35 pm

+1 ^^ That's my understanding too, however, I have recently seen a friend's GF get a role as a new grad in Singapore, and her EP is approved.

Strange I guess, no point in giving up though I don't think. If at first you don't succeed try, try again.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 22 Nov 2011 1:52 pm

I didn't want to mention it, but I also think ethnicity plays a big part in it at the moment as well...... :-|

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Postby richie303 » Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:37 pm

Ok well the friend of mine's GF is from Englandshire. I guess that's ok!?
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Postby miaolove123 » Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:15 am

Hi :)

Thanks all for your replies.

Sure I will try one more time. and will start with entry level jobs. So ethnicity also is an issue? I'm Asian. Is that a "minus"? Having seen so many Asian expats here. Hopefully everything's gonna be ok.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:22 am

"Asian" cover a heck of a lot of ground ethnically. If you are Malaysian Chinese you are a shoe-in. (in fact, top tier). Descending order from there and depending on what you consider "Asian"........


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