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PR application: asking for full detailed of family member

Postby freeman.vu » Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:32 pm

Hi All,

I applied PR on early last May and today I got a letter from IC A asking for a detailed full CV of both me and my wife's family members ( parents and siblings).
The letter attaches two other forms with just few columns: name and birth of date, relationship, employment, rank, duties and few other employment related fields.
1. We are confused as do we need to provide official or with stamp supporting documents or just fill in the forms and bring to IC A?
2. Bosses, do you know usually are there any positive signals here? Basing on your experience, statistically (if have) how long the outcome of such cases generally will be out?

Thanks a bunch and happy Friday to you all.
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Re: PR application: asking for full detailed of family membe

Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 5:21 am

freeman.vu wrote:Hi All,

I applied PR on early last May and today I got a letter from ICA asking for a detailed full CV of both me and my wife's family members ( parents and siblings).
The letter attaches two other forms with just few columns: name and birth of date, relationship, employment, rank, duties and few other employment related fields.
1. We are confused as do we need to provide official or with stamp supporting documents or just fill in the forms and bring to ICA?
2. Bosses, do you know usually are there any positive signals here? Basing on your experience, statistically (if have) how long the outcome of such cases generally will be out?

Thanks a bunch and happy Friday to you all.


Basically if you only applied for your wife and yourself but omitting your children , then of course ICA would want to know why are you omitting them out from your application. If you do this then you are on a one way street named FORGETITANDDONOTTRYTOFOOLUS Street
If you do not have kids then ICA would want to know yours and the wife family tree as some applicant once their PR is approved immediately apply for LTSVP for the whole family and another way to circumvent NS if you have kids which is a NO-NO
Another possibility is your other sibling might be working in SG too and there will be duplication in application
If you have nothing to hide, declare truthfully.
If ICA responded to your application, i.e your toes are in the door
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Postby JR8 » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 6:30 am

The rather blunt impression I get is that:-

- Indians are notorious for trying to play the system.

- Gain a PR (often their 2nd/3rd/4th it all 'fair game' it seems!) and they will do so by what ever means.

- Take from SG what ever they can, then leave.

- Once one of them is in the door, they'll try and get two dozen of their destitute relatives in too.

Like I said, just an impression.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 6:53 am

It's not an impression, but fact. As noted, it is primarily a means of determining HOW much additional collateral ethnic damage can possibly be done to the demographics of Singapore. Indians are particularly fond of doing the mass immigration thing and then, once they've got established here, they branch out into other countries as Singapore PR gives them a leg up, so to speak.

They might want you & your wife, but they don't want your entire family baggage train.

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Re: PR application: asking for full detailed of family membe

Postby freeman.vu » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:25 am

Mad Scientist wrote:
Basically if you only applied for your wife and yourself but omitting your children , then of course ICA would want to know why are you omitting them out from your application. If you do this then you are on a one way street named FORGETITANDDONOTTRYTOFOOLUS Street
If you do not have kids then ICA would want to know yours and the wife family tree as some applicant once their PR is approved immediately apply for LTSVP for the whole family and another way to circumvent NS if you have kids which is a NO-NO
Another possibility is your other sibling might be working in SG too and there will be duplication in application
If you have nothing to hide, declare truthfully.
If ICA responded to your application, i.e your toes are in the door


Thank Mad Scientist, I got it. I don't have kids yet so I am more falling into the second case, bolded above.

Actually, I was thinking a bit negative here as I am afraid my application is going to another round of a few more months processing again. Felt like it wasn't touched until the deadline which I supposes to hear some response and responding by asking for some more details, so they IC A cleverly killed two birds with one stone (extends the time + response to the applicant)
Anyway, and of course we will declare truthfully our family member and submit it today. Will keep you guys posted about the outcome.


Thank you all.

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:38 am

sorry I am late to this party

To apply, firstly, you MUST READ ALL INSTRUCTIONS

And, it is mandatory for you to furnish information of your family, your parents, siblings etc. etc. though support documents to that effect is NOT NEEDED, unless ICA asks (and they could easily get some agency to randomly check if your information is valid or not .. )

And details include the siblings place of residence, their employment, and also your parents place of residence, as well as their source of income / employment etc. etc.

Which of this did you miss ?? :D :D

Actually, I was thinking a bit negative here as I am afraid my application is going to another round of a few more months processing again. Felt like it wasn't touched until the deadline which I supposes to hear some response and responding by asking for some more details, so they IC A cleverly killed two birds with one stone (extends the time + response to the applicant)

Pardon my English, what is that all about ? Are you second guessing ICA ??? :D :D

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Postby nishantupadhya » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:15 am

Sad to be a part of this stereotype...but nothing I can explain to defend except doing the right things/actions for this country as a permanent resident.

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Re: Late to the party

Postby freeman.vu » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:52 am

ecureilx wrote:sorry I am late to this party

To apply, firstly, you MUST READ ALL INSTRUCTIONS

And, it is mandatory for you to furnish information of your family, your parents, siblings etc. etc. though support documents to that effect is NOT NEEDED, unless ICA asks (and they could easily get some agency to randomly check if your information is valid or not .. )

And details include the siblings place of residence, their employment, and also your parents place of residence, as well as their source of income / employment etc. etc.

Which of this did you miss ?? :D :D

Actually, I was thinking a bit negative here as I am afraid my application is going to another round of a few more months processing again. Felt like it wasn't touched until the deadline which I supposes to hear some response and responding by asking for some more details, so they IC A cleverly killed two birds with one stone (extends the time + response to the applicant)

Pardon my English, what is that all about ? Are you second guessing ICA ??? :D :D

Super ..


ecureilx,

Nothing, I don't miss any thing and I also read the instructions. I am asked to provide further details which doesn't mean I didn't provide any information.

It is about my wonder, but it is over already as Mad Scientist and SMS has cleared my wonder. Now, I know the purpose is for the gahmen to understand more about my background, as like sms said it is known that some people from some country have the habit to abuse the system after getting PR...

No, I am not.

Thanks man.

Well, I think I get what I asked for already. I am going to give IC A all the information they asked for today and I will keep you guys posted about the outcome.

Cheers.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 1:05 pm

Pay no attention to squirrel, he gets that way occasionally..... :lol:

OP, we would appreciate you letting us know the outcome if & when.....

It's the way we can tell, over a period of time, if the goal posts are being pushed and in which direction. :wink:

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 1:14 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Pay no attention to squirrel, he gets that way occasionally..... :lol:

OP, we would appreciate you letting us know the outcome if & when.....

It's the way we can tell, over a period of time, if the goal posts are being pushed and in which direction. :wink:

sms


:D Thanks for the vote of confidence .. :D

BTW, heard from a source that ICA is reviewing the 'KIV'd' applications ..

somebody's estimate vs actual numbers left some gaps I understand ..

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 11 Nov 2011 3:24 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Pay no attention to squirrel, he gets that way occasionally.....



Oh now I get it! :)

p.s. dyslexic squirrel though :lol:

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