Leaving for holidays, do i need exit permits?

dayone · Post by **dayone** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:40 am

Im 18 this year and I'm pre-enlisted for NS. Im going to canada for holiday during this school holiday, i heard that trips within 3 months does not require exit permit, is it true? But the thing is that my mum only booked an one way ticket to canada for me, because i will be going China afterwards, will i get into trouble when leaving Singapore?

Thanks for all advice.

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 3:43 am

dayone wrote:Im 18 this year and I'm pre-enlisted for NS. Im going to canada for holiday during this school holiday, i heard that trips within 3 months does not require exit permit, is it true? But the thing is that my mum only booked an one way ticket to canada for me, because i will be going China afterwards, will i get into trouble when leaving Singapore?

Thanks for all advice.

Yes, less than three months you do not need an EP but ICA mya require you to produce a return ticket. It is best to call up CMPB to clarifyif you are allowed to leave or not.
What the hell is your mom doing by not buying a return ticket back to SG? Do not give me this excuse just to save a couple of bucks by buying a return ticket from China !! What a bloody lame excuse , I would say !!
You can always have multiple round trips on different dates on different locations.
Moreover if you are so close to your NS intake, you do not want to be on the wrong side of the fence, would you ?
Are you doing the ditching ?
If you are doing the ditch , then go ahead and be prepared for your arse to be fried on the barbies on your way home

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 4:08 am

Mad Scientist wrote: ICA may require you to produce a return ticket.

As might immigration at Canada.

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Who is eligible to visit Canada?

These requirements apply to everyone who wishes to visit Canada. To visit Canada, you must:
Have a valid travel document, such as a passport. Please consult the list of travel documents not acceptable for travel to Canada.
Be in good health,
Not be inadmissible,
Satisfy an immigration officer that you will leave Canada at the end of your visit, and
Have enough money for your stay. The amount of money you will need can vary with the circumstances of the visit, how long you will stay and whether you will stay in a hotel or with friends or relatives.
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http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/si ... isite.aspx

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 7:00 am

Apparently the kid has onward tickets to China so that ought to satisfy Canada. Not sure on the Singapore side, unless he has onward journey ticket from China to Singapore. That's the kicker.

dayone · Post by **dayone** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:28 am

What can i do now? Buy another ticket? Or should i go and apply for exit permit? Would i be able to explain my situation to the officer at the checkpoint? Will they refuse to allow me leave?

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:56 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Apparently the kid has onward tickets to China so that ought to satisfy Canada. Not sure on the Singapore side, unless he has onward journey ticket from China to Singapore. That's the kicker.

Depends how you read it I think.
I read is as:
'But the thing is that my mum only booked an one way ticket to canada for me. Because i will be going China afterwards'.

Note also the use of 'wlll be going', whereas if you had a booked ticket I'd expect to red 'am going'.

Or... maybe I'm overthinking the Singlish?

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 1:39 pm

methinks you give him too much credit.

poodlek · Post by **poodlek** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 2:08 pm

dayone wrote:What can i do now? Buy another ticket? Or should i go and apply for exit permit? Would i be able to explain my situation to the officer at the checkpoint? Will they refuse to allow me leave?

If I were the officer I'd be highly suspicious. I wouldn't take it on your word that you were coming back, I'd expect proof. If you can afford a ticket to Canada, and one from Canada to China, it can't be that much of a financial hardship to purchase the ticket from China-SIN at the Singapore price as opposed to the China price. Consider it travel insurance. Of course, if this is all a ruse to get out of the country and not come back, consider it an investment

QRM · Post by **QRM** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 2:31 pm

Or you can look at it if he is really planning on doing a runner, why make it so obvious. Genuine runners would have bought a return ticket to avoid the suspicion. The cost of the unused flight is a small price to pay for freedom?

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 2:35 pm

dayone wrote:What can i do now? Buy another ticket? Or should i go and apply for exit permit? Would i be able to explain my situation to the officer at the checkpoint? Will they refuse to allow me leave?

Buy another return ticket you must. Go CMPB to confirm you must
You may be subject to supply two sureties to ensure that you return for NS.
Judging by your overseas trip from SG to Canada then on China. You will be going away for at least a month

dayone · Post by **dayone** » Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:33 pm

Thanks for the responses so far. Just to clarify, it is confirmed that i will be going to China, but the China-Sin ticket has yet to be booked. I will definitely be back in 3 months because i still need to continue my JC next year. I'm a PR(does this make things easier?). I'm not planning to ditch NS, just that we did not foresee this potential problem when my mom brought the ticket much earlier.

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Sat, 05 Nov 2011 5:06 am

dayone wrote:Thanks for the responses so far. Just to clarify, it is confirmed that i will be going to China, but the China-Sin ticket has yet to be booked. I will definitely be back in 3 months because i still need to continue my JC next year. I'm a PR(does this make things easier?). I'm not planning to ditch NS, just that we did not foresee this potential problem when my mom brought the ticket much earlier.

No , since you are a 2nd Gen PR, the law applies the same.

Go and get a return ticket and make sure you go holiday within the 3 months limit before EP kicks in

soccerist · Post by **soccerist** » Sun, 06 Nov 2011 9:30 am

as long u r out of the country over 24 hours....best to notify...

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Sun, 06 Nov 2011 3:15 pm

soccerist wrote:as long u r out of the country over 24 hours....best to notify...

This is total BS coming from you. Shut your trap if you do not know what you are talking about

poodlek · Post by **poodlek** » Sun, 06 Nov 2011 3:31 pm

What did the five fingers say to the face??

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