Why all the 'hatred' towards us 'foreigners'?

[nakatago]

How about bird's nest then?

[JR8]

How about bird's nest then?

You want to pay top-$ to eat dried bird spit with bits of poo in it... up to you man

[boffenl]

Even the women's toilets are disgusting in many European places so I've been told while there.

What? Have you seen the toilets or just been told they're gross. I spent a month in Germany this summer and even the remote toilet on a hiking path was cleaner than the Lucky Plaza toilets just after the "cleaner" is done with it. Unless you have firsthand knowledge please don't judge. I'd put the toilets at the Frankfurt airport against Changi any day of the week. Heck, even the toilets at my favorite airport--Baltimore-Washington International could go head to head against Changi.

So you can find all types of people in every Country clean and dirty pigs too! Problem with expats is that they come over here without any knowledge of customs and traditions of local immigrants that have settled in Singapore, most Chinese, Malay, Indian, Arab, American, European have their own bad habits and traditions too and obviously find others worse than themselves. When in fact the opposite is more likely to be true.

True, but my bad habits don't include peeing on the floor or in the sink.

, but many English people are still taking baths once or twice a week, I find that absolutely disgusting, as I shower twice a day ever since i had the opportunity of a shower.

Um, in the winter it's a horror to shower once a day not to mention the tremendous amount of energy to heat the water, the floor, the bedroom, your towels, etc. Regardless since it's so f-ing cold you're not sweating (WHICH IS WHERE THE SMELLS COME FROM) EVER. So, it's quite true that most folks don't shower everyday in the winter. People like their fingers and toes attached, not frostbitten

Singapore is a damn sight cleaner than it was in 1970 that's for sure and some cultures may have bad habits, and traditions which do improve their parents through their childrens' awareness of hygiene too.[/quote]
[b]
Yes, this is true. But still a damned shock when during the Primary 1 Orientation they must remind parents to make sure their children know how to use a toilet properly--including toilet tours during the orientation. That's still surprising in this day and age.[/b]

[nakatago]

How about bird's nest then?

You want to pay top-$ to eat dried bird spit with bits of poo in it... up to you man

So, a bird's nest soup with shark's fin dumplings with some foie gras on the side?

But the restaurant would have disgusting toilets...

[JR8]

Here's a thought.... if you P'd off the waiter and he spat in your bowl of spit soup, would you notice?

[ecureilx]

You were going ok, till you said this ..

... .. they're having foie gras (a French speciality ... and kills endangered animals.

Since When are ducks endangered ?

Obviously he was just referring to shark fin alone when he said that. Nevertheless, in both, animal cruelty is in the commonplace.

Well, i guessed so, but .. couldn't resist ..

They even have a submarine now with a couple more on the way.

Actually, Singapore has been the only country in the region, with 4 fully operational submarines before the newest (well, rebuilt) ones joined ... unlike the some neighbours ones, who's submarines sank while moored ..

*face palm* Yeah and wasted the taxpayers' hard-earned money. But then again, that is just a tip of a huge iceberg that got submerged over there (if you know what I mean)

Yeah, there was even speculation that the sinking was 'pre-planned'

And Singapore reminds the people here that the 7th fleet is here to defend the US Interests .. And reminds me when somebody asked then Malaysian PM Badawi about Singapore's purchase of long range Air-to-Air missiles - his answer ? "well, we are so close that we don't need to intrude into each other's airspace to shoot .. and we are not worried about Singapore's planes and ships and submarines .. "

So early already post in forum ah?

between the time I wake up and depart to work, I get an hour or so of free time: Doesn't help that my work place guys are worried if you turn up very early at work .. ..

[the lynx]

Nothing like regular doses of state-induced paranoia to keep the proles subjugated

Tee hee hee

Shark's fin.... shall we kick that one off again (facepalm, please no), or do I just link over all the points I made last time

And I remember well where is that one bit coming from

Here! http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic74951-0-asc-60.html

[nutnut]

I haven't tried Spit soup or Shark fin yet, however, I don't have a major issue with them. I mean, why should I? I'm at the top of the food chain and the world is my dinner plate!

Out of interest, do you think that Sharks have a problem with only eating a single limb of a human if they find one and then set them on their way, I don't think so! Frankly, they'll eat anything they can that looks like meat right?

Discuss.

Oh, and I LOVE fois gras! I don't particularly care if ducks or geese die for it, it's amazing!

[ecureilx]

Out of interest, do you think that Sharks have a problem with only eating a single limb of a human if they find one and then set them on their way, I don't think so! Frankly, they'll eat anything they can that looks like meat right?

well, I am not a guy from WWF, but .. the issue is .. a man can still hobble around minus one leg or do his 'business' with one hand .. but a shark, minus it's fin, just drowns to death being unable to swim anymore .. (and hence the new pro-shark meat lobby which goes on to say if you can sell the shark meat, then take the fin too, and consider the fin as a good add-on, and don't cut the fin and drop the rest of the shark .. )

[nutnut]

Out of interest, do you think that Sharks have a problem with only eating a single limb of a human if they find one and then set them on their way, I don't think so! Frankly, they'll eat anything they can that looks like meat right?

well, I am not a guy from WWF, but .. the issue is .. a man can still hobble around minus one leg or do his 'business' with one hand .. but a shark, minus it's fin, just drowns to death being unable to swim anymore .. (and hence the new pro-shark meat lobby which goes on to say if you can sell the shark meat, then take the fin too, and consider the fin as a good add-on, and don't cut the fin and drop the rest of the shark .. )

I don't have a moral problem with that, simply a waste issue, I do like a shark steak, seems wasteful not to bring the whole thing out of the water and cut it up and eat it.... Not sure about eating the palate though like some people eat out in Asia!

Again, sorry if it upsets anyone, but I really don't have an issue with how animals are killed. I think we spend too much time worrying about this and not enough on how to deal with our own problems as humans!

Do you think a man in the water with only one leg can swim so well? may well drown too huh?

[the lynx]

Out of interest, do you think that Sharks have a problem with only eating a single limb of a human if they find one and then set them on their way, I don't think so! Frankly, they'll eat anything they can that looks like meat right?

well, I am not a guy from WWF, but .. the issue is .. a man can still hobble around minus one leg or do his 'business' with one hand .. but a shark, minus it's fin, just drowns to death being unable to swim anymore .. (and hence the new pro-shark meat lobby which goes on to say if you can sell the shark meat, then take the fin too, and consider the fin as a good add-on, and don't cut the fin and drop the rest of the shark .. )

I don't have a moral problem with that, simply a waste issue, I do like a shark steak, seems wasteful not to bring the whole thing out of the water and cut it up and eat it.... Not sure about eating the palate though like some people eat out in Asia!

Again, sorry if it upsets anyone, but I really don't have an issue with how animals are killed. I think we spend too much time worrying about this and not enough on how to deal with our own problems as humans!

Do you think a man in the water with only one leg can swim so well? may well drown too huh?

Guys I have to remind you all against continuing in this discussion. We had almost an ugly one last year (refer to the thread I posted in the last post). Continue there if you really want to

[ecureilx]

Do you think a man in the water with only one leg can swim so well? may well drown too huh?

A man with a single leg CAN SWIM, unless he lost the other one quite recently and is still hanging remnants of the loss around .. with a Life Preserver, with special swimming gear, with a float coat, with a PFD ..

Well, sharks are not privileged to have access to such 'devices' yah ?? ?:)

Guys I have to remind you all against continuing in this discussion. We had almost an ugly one last year (refer to the thread I posted in the last post). Continue there if you really want to

Yah, about time I guess LOL

[nutnut]

Happy not to continue. Just read the thread, I don't want to upset folk as my opinion is one of somewhat indifference.


I will not respond to any further discussion on this particular topic.

nutnut.

[x9200]

Out of interest, do you think that Sharks have a problem with only eating a single limb of a human if they find one and then set them on their way, I don't think so! Frankly, they'll eat anything they can that looks like meat right?

well, I am not a guy from WWF, but .. the issue is .. a man can still hobble around minus one leg or do his 'business' with one hand .. but a shark, minus it's fin, just drowns to death being unable to swim anymore .. (and hence the new pro-shark meat lobby which goes on to say if you can sell the shark meat, then take the fin too, and consider the fin as a good add-on, and don't cut the fin and drop the rest of the shark .. )

Or at least pack the leftovers and offer it to your guests after the feast.

[ankle]

sry, altho i have said that i will not post any further, but I thot I should thank ksl for the kind words and would like to contribute regarding the shark fins piece.

When the chinese invite guests for dinner, they'll have to bring out the best dish because it's considered rude not to do that and it is also to show off their wealth (yeah i know, "face" again... )

Therefore, likewise in wedding dinners. It's also mainly for the wife's parents to show off to the wedding guests that their daughter is marrying to someone who is decent enough to ensure their daughter's happiness (It's a chinese thing to relate happiness to wealth).

As for the varieties of food. In the older days, if you could afford chicken or duck, it's good enough. It's even better if you could add roasted pig into the menu. Likewise with fish and prawns. Not sure when does shark fins and abalone comes into the picture. Probaby because they're very expensive and only wealthy families could afford that many years back.

Also, if you're a vegetarian, you could checkout with the bride/bridegroom or whoever that invite you whether they cater for vegetarian and they could make special arrangement with the restaurant. My vegetarian friends never had any problem getting vegetarian meals in wedding dinners.

Lastly, if gov were to impose a rule to ban sharkfins, I could imagine the number outroars it is going to cause. Oppies could use this to fume ppl's emotion towards pap. So I don't think banning of sharkfins is going to happen anytime soon. Anyway, more younger generations are aware that sharks are endangered species and some of the recent weddings I've attended have actually replaced sharkfins with mock sharkfins. But it could be also because sharkfins are getting more and more expensive.

Okay, that's all for now. Think this will truely be my last post here. Thank you everybody for the comments so far. Altho we kept to ourself alot, actually, most of us doesn't hate you. Just extend your friendship hand out first and we'll warm up to you. Peace out...