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Singapore-bought TV and NTSC video source?

Postby kiyuri » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 7:35 pm

Hi everyone.

I've just relocated to Singapore from Japan and some video equipment should be arriving shortly. I have a voltage converter, so that is no problem -- but Japan's TV signal is the same as the US -- NTSC (as opposed to Singapore's PAL signal).

Does anyone here have actual experience with buying a TV in Singapore that will display both the local PAL signal; plus take an NTSC signal via HDMI cable without trouble, weird cropping, or other problems?

If so, could you please tell me the brand and model?

Thanks!

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Re: Singapore-bought TV and NTSC video source?

Postby ecureilx » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 8:10 pm

kiyuri wrote:Hi everyone.

I've just relocated to Singapore from Japan and some video equipment should be arriving shortly. I have a voltage converter, so that is no problem -- but Japan's TV signal is the same as the US -- NTSC (as opposed to Singapore's PAL signal).

Does anyone here have actual experience with buying a TV in Singapore that will display both the local PAL signal; plus take an NTSC signal via HDMI cable without trouble, weird cropping, or other problems?

If so, could you please tell me the brand and model?

Thanks!


All new tvs are multi system .. so why would you worry much ?

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Re: Singapore-bought TV and NTSC video source?

Postby kiyuri » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 8:24 pm

ecureilx wrote:All new tvs are multi system .. so why would you worry much ?


Interesting. TV's in Japan are not multi-system.

Have you tried it with an NTSC signal?
It would be an expensive mistake to simply assume it will work, buy the TV, have it delivered, and only then find out it does not display properly.

Thanks.

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Re: Singapore-bought TV and NTSC video source?

Postby ecureilx » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:42 pm

kiyuri wrote:
ecureilx wrote:All new tvs are multi system .. so why would you worry much ?


Interesting. TV's in Japan are not multi-system.

Have you tried it with an NTSC signal?
It would be an expensive mistake to simply assume it will work, buy the TV, have it delivered, and only then find out it does not display properly.

Thanks.


Yes, and yes .. I have had many a friend ship there NTSC DVD players / VCD Players and all, and all we had to do was get a multi-system TV

If you just make sure that the tv is multi-system, you are good to go, unless you are the type who orders and prays that it is the right one..

PS: many a electronic salesman has to clue what they sell, so .. just ask and if not sure, see the label - all labels specify the supported systems .. not rocket science boss ...

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Re: Singapore-bought TV and NTSC video source?

Postby kiyuri » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:43 pm

ecureilx wrote:Yes, and yes .. I have had many a friend ship there NTSC DVD players / VCD Players and all, and all we had to do was get a multi-system TV

If you just make sure that the tv is multi-system, you are good to go, unless you are the type who orders and prays that it is the right one..

PS: many a electronic salesman has to clue what they sell, so .. just ask and if not sure, see the label - all labels specify the supported systems .. not rocket science boss ...


Thanks boss.

I was looking at TVs today and did not see any sort of indication about them being multi-system. Probably because it doesn't matter to most people.


What label are you referring to?

If it's one of the fine print labels on the back of the TV, that would be why I couldn't see it in the store.

PS- I did ask the salesman, and he didn't know what NTSC was. So he asked someone else who looked kind of puzzled, then after a little while he answered with a "sure, it's okay" -- and I'm sorry, but that did not give me a whole lot of confidence in his answer. That's why I came to ask the helpful community here to see if anyone had actual experience with this.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:25 am

Just ask to see the brochure for the particular TV. That will tell all. Most salesmen here don't know sh*t from shinola.

Virtually every TV imported into Singapore is Multi-System though. PAL B & G, NTSC (US & France - Both are different I believe) Secam, and a host of others.. Tell the salesman you want to see the spec sheet on the TV. Or do a search here on the internet. That will tell you as well.

Google is your friend when a salesman isn't.

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Postby kiyuri » Thu, 27 Oct 2011 7:41 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Just ask to see the brochure for the particular TV. That will tell all. Most salesmen here don't know sh*t from shinola.

Virtually every TV imported into Singapore is Multi-System though. PAL B & G, NTSC (US & France - Both are different I believe) Secam, and a host of others.. Tell the salesman you want to see the spec sheet on the TV. Or do a search here on the internet. That will tell you as well.

Google is your friend when a salesman isn't.


Thanks. They didn't have any specs or brochures for the TVs. I did ask.

Next time I'll write the model numbers down and Google them later. Still haven't gotten my iPhone switched over to a local carrier yet.

Thanks for the tips!

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Postby curiousgeorge » Thu, 27 Oct 2011 7:50 am

PAL, NTSC and SECAM use different methods of color encoding. NTSC has 480 horizontal lines to a picture, whereas PAL & SECAM have 576 lines (digital) or 625 (analogue).

If you buy a modern HD TV, the number of lines will be 720 or 1080, irrespective of where you bought the TV - the NTSC/PAL/SECAM point becomes moot. And it doesn't matter if your source is 720 or 1080, your TV should scale the signal accordingly (although for best picture quality, make sure all your devices can use 1080p).

Then you only have to worry about your sources being HD...so get a HD set top box, connect via HDMI and no worries. :)

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 27 Oct 2011 9:41 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Just ask to see the brochure for the particular TV. That will tell all. Most salesmen here don't know sh*t from shinola.


Exactly, and if they don't have a brochure, walk away .. even if the salesman offers free installation, free mounting bracket, free dust cover, free cable or free this and that .. once they sense your urgency, they will ensure you buy it regardless it is what you need or not .. welcome to Singapore ..

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Postby constantgardener » Wed, 05 Mar 2014 2:51 pm

hi guys, i pretty much have the same setup as you guys but am facing some tv problems. as i have no warranty, anybody know any reliable technicians who can attend to 'converted' TVs?

appreciate the help in advance :)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 05 Mar 2014 3:24 pm

constantgardener wrote:hi guys, i pretty much have the same setup as you guys but am facing some tv problems. as i have no warranty, anybody know any reliable technicians who can attend to 'converted' TVs?

appreciate the help in advance :)


I guess it's understandable considering you are logging in via some corncob ISP in Omaha, Nebraska.

Try these guys......

http://www.superpages.com/bp/Omaha-NE/J ... 983325.htm


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