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P1 pass with trespassing conviction

Postby KGS » Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:25 pm

I have a 8 year old trespass conviction in the US. I was young (23) and I was upset and damaged some items in a store. I have been working for 7 years in the US now with clean record. Recently I got a job in Singapore and the company is applying for P1 EP for me. Will the trespass conviction affect my chances of getting the EP? Can folks with similar situation share their experiences?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:46 pm

If you don't get any replies, I guess you will have your answer, albeit not the one you were hoping for..... :-|

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Postby KGS » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:02 am

Hi sundaymorningstaple,
I see that you are the moderator, do you live Singapore? It seems hard to believe that MOM would not give folks a second chance. People do make mistakes and learn from them... mine was a really stupid. I would be really disappointed if I don't even get a chance :(
Do you have any suggestions on what I could do to convince MOM that this was one off track thing in my life and other than that I am a sincere and honest person.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 1:00 am

Not 'the' moderator, just one of four of us.

We've seen lots with DUI's with no problem, and even some disturbing the peace, and I believe one with a spent conviction from the UK (but not sure of the outcome from that one - it was earlier this year, but I don't remember if he was successful or not). As long as you are honest, if they reject, then appeal and then lay out your story. But as long as you are up front you will spend a better chance of being successful. They are pretty reasonable as long as all else is okay. Additionally, the fact that you are trying for a P1 EP may well see you clear anyway, as it may well signal that you have, in fact, turned your life around and if a company out there will pay you that much with a record, then they have to thing twice. give it a go. See what happens, but in the meantime, lay out the whole story for submission in an appeal, that you might not even need.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 4:12 am

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Postby mogness » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 10:39 am

Hmm. I came to Singapore 2 years ago on a P1 EP, just got renewed for another 3 years. I think the SG govt tends to look the other way a bit more when you are on P1 if only because they have a chance to extract more $$ ;). I have prior drug charges in the US. Not convictions but I was still quite worried and it never so much as came up during the process. I'm not sure if the conviction is going to make a difference for you, but I wouldn't sweat it too much. Was your charge deemed a misdemeanor or did you get bumped up to a felony based on what you did in the store?

That post Mad Scientist linked to may make you feel a bit better as well.
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Postby KGS » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:01 am

Mogness, The charge is a misdemeanor. I was a student when this happened and for past 7 years my Work visa to work in US has been approved so, I am hoping things will be ok.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:05 am

If it was just a misdemeanor, just be honest, shouldn't be any drama at all.

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 4:24 pm

KGS wrote:It seems hard to believe that MOM would not give folks a second chance.


Funny you should say that .. does US do that to 'foreigners' who have criminal records ?? :)

heck, even Russell Brand was refused entry to Japan and apparently to Canada ..

Well, second chances are given for "CITIZENS" :)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 5:06 pm

ecureilx wrote:Well, second chances are given for "CITIZENS" :)


Unless said Citizens skipped NS, that is.........

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 07 Oct 2011 5:07 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
ecureilx wrote:Well, second chances are given for "CITIZENS" :)


Unless said Citizens skipped NS, that is.........


then of course it is NO CHANCE :D :D

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Postby KGS » Wed, 12 Oct 2011 5:24 pm

Just wanted to update that I got my EP approved ...

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 12 Oct 2011 5:45 pm

I rest my case, your honour....... :wink:

Congrats!

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Postby Nathanlee » Thu, 20 Oct 2011 3:49 pm

So just to understand guys as I am in a similar situation. It helps if, the minor conviction was 10yrs plus ago, you have moved on from the misdemeanour and not been in trouble again, you are applying for a P1 EP and it's a Singapore based company applying for you? Best to be honest, admit to it, explain period of time ago, termed as 'spent' if in UK, supply character references supplied and from yourself how it's a regret from your youth and you have moved on. Is this the best way to set it out for the MOM.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 20 Oct 2011 5:11 pm

Nathanlee wrote:So just to understand guys as I am in a similar situation. It helps if, the minor conviction was 10yrs plus ago, you have moved on from the misdemeanour and not been in trouble again, you are applying for a P1 EP and it's a Singapore based company applying for you? Best to be honest, admit to it, explain period of time ago, termed as 'spent' if in UK, supply character references supplied and from yourself how it's a regret from your youth and you have moved on. Is this the best way to set it out for the MOM.


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