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Postby Mi Amigo » Sun, 02 Oct 2011 8:31 pm

I'm just smiling at the edit the OP made, where he replaced "good English" with "great American English." Some woiuld say there is indeed a subtle difference, but I certainly wouldn't want to offend SMS or anyone from that great country, so I won't comment further :twisted: .

As to the courtesy of immigration officers, I can only concur with what others (apart from the general) have written. In all my time visiting and living here I've always been treated with great courtesy. The only question I've ever been asked is "would you like a sweet?" (from the little tray, and the only other comments have been along the lines of "welcome home". To me it's one of the great things about living here.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 02 Oct 2011 8:41 pm

That's okay. I butcher the English language like the typical farm boy that I am. As I've said many times in the past, I'm street smart not book smart. Guess that's why I'm still here all these years........ :P

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Postby generalsu » Wed, 05 Oct 2011 4:28 am

Mi Amigo wrote:I'm just smiling at the edit the OP made, where he replaced "good English" with "great American English." Some woiuld say there is indeed a subtle difference, but I certainly wouldn't want to offend SMS or anyone from that great country, so I won't comment further :twisted: .

As to the courtesy of immigration officers, I can only concur with what others (apart from the general) have written. In all my time visiting and living here I've always been treated with great courtesy. The only question I've ever been asked is "would you like a sweet?" (from the little tray, and the only other comments have been along the lines of "welcome home". To me it's one of the great things about living here.


Let me ask you what race are you?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 05 Oct 2011 5:32 am

generalsu wrote:
Mi Amigo wrote:I'm just smiling at the edit the OP made, where he replaced "good English" with "great American English." Some woiuld say there is indeed a subtle difference, but I certainly wouldn't want to offend SMS or anyone from that great country, so I won't comment further :twisted: .

As to the courtesy of immigration officers, I can only concur with what others (apart from the general) have written. In all my time visiting and living here I've always been treated with great courtesy. The only question I've ever been asked is "would you like a sweet?" (from the little tray, and the only other comments have been along the lines of "welcome home". To me it's one of the great things about living here.


Let me ask you what race are you?


GeneralSu, : I tried to stay out of this debate but here is another perspective of your recent encounter and I do not have good English in fact "broken and down the toilet English".
I used to work with a few Ministries years ago... one of them was SIR now known as ICA. Due to the courtesy campaign that was started years ago by the Gahmen, all gahmen officials are to have a very high standard of courtesy in carrying out their duties. This is especially emhasised with great details for those stationed at border control namely.
the airport and other POE. They can be placed on report if they did not carry their duties to the highest standard. Every bad encounters with unruly passengers has to be written down in the notebook similar to Police Officers Routine book that they carry with them while on duty
We are taught MOI albeit Method of Instruction to deal with daily encounters with passengers arriving into SG.
First glance will be what you are wearing, your facial traits, only then your PP including all required docs prior to entry to Sg
From your comms and your body movement will make the ICA officers spiders starting to spring into action or not. Before you reach the ICA booth, there are rows of glassess/ mirrors along the travellators, guess who is behind those mirrors ? When you pick up your bags, the customs officers do not even bother to stop you for inspection unlike in many other countries including LA, Chicago inbound inflight. Why ?
This is call non invasive inspection.
You must have tick the ICA officers pretty good that you end up being bashed by them. Anyway thank your lucky star that you are allowed to enter SG. You may have all docs with you but ICA is the last person you want to fool around with. So take stock of what has happen and next time do not rock the boat.
In conclusion is my English OK ? Is it American, British, Singapore or in Hokkien they said "kana sai !!"
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Postby generalsu » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 1:11 am

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generalsu wrote:
Mi Amigo wrote:I'm just smiling at the edit the OP made, where he replaced "good English" with "great American English." Some woiuld say there is indeed a subtle difference, but I certainly wouldn't want to offend SMS or anyone from that great country, so I won't comment further :twisted: .

As to the courtesy of immigration officers, I can only concur with what others (apart from the general) have written. In all my time visiting and living here I've always been treated with great courtesy. The only question I've ever been asked is "would you like a sweet?" (from the little tray, and the only other comments have been along the lines of "welcome home". To me it's one of the great things about living here.


Let me ask you what race are you?


GeneralSu, : I tried to stay out of this debate but here is another perspective of your recent encounter and I do not have good English in fact "broken and down the toilet English".
I used to work with a few Ministries years ago... one of them was SIR now known as ICA. Due to the courtesy campaign that was started years ago by the Gahmen, all gahmen officials are to have a very high standard of courtesy in carrying out their duties. This is especially emhasised with great details for those stationed at border control namely.
the airport and other POE. They can be placed on report if they did not carry their duties to the highest standard. Every bad encounters with unruly passengers has to be written down in the notebook similar to Police Officers Routine book that they carry with them while on duty
We are taught MOI albeit Method of Instruction to deal with daily encounters with passengers arriving into SG.
First glance will be what you are wearing, your facial traits, only then your PP including all required docs prior to entry to Sg
From your comms and your body movement will make the ICA officers spiders starting to spring into action or not. Before you reach the ICA booth, there are rows of glassess/ mirrors along the travellators, guess who is behind those mirrors ? When you pick up your bags, the customs officers do not even bother to stop you for inspection unlike in many other countries including LA, Chicago inbound inflight. Why ?
This is call non invasive inspection.
You must have tick the ICA officers pretty good that you end up being bashed by them. Anyway thank your lucky star that you are allowed to enter SG. You may have all docs with you but ICA is the last person you want to fool around with. So take stock of what has happen and next time do not rock the boat.
In conclusion is my English OK ? Is it American, British, Singapore or in Hokkien they said "kana sai !!"


Is your English OK? I do not know, I would have to hear you first before making any sort of judgment.

Speaking about the ICA, I probably exaggerated a little bit. The ICA gahmen did not really bashed me nor insulted me. All the officer said was "How many days you want to stay?" cuz I didn't fill out the number of days field in the D/E card. I told them that I have a pending EntrePass application and even showed them my application for EntrePass receipt from SingPost. He then became irritated and said, "30 days! Your EntrePass is subject to approval by MOM. You find a good job and make big salary huh." He became a little suspicious and started checking every page on my passport. Then he consulted another ICA border officer and the other officer asked me whether I had worked in Singapore before and I said yes. Finally, everything was clear to them what my situation was and they let me enter Singapore for 30 days.

Of course, by now, my EntrePass status is on AIP, which was dated way back in August, my company already incorporated and I will be working to put the initial capital into my business and hope for an official EntrePass card from MOM.

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 1:29 am

generalsu wrote:Is your English OK? I do not know, I would have to hear you first before making any sort of judgment.


You can start off by reading MS previous postings here, for a start, before you draw any judgement (not that I am not gonna bother anyway .. I have high regards for MS, and so do many here, and that stays, in my opinion ..)

Speaking about the ICA, I probably exaggerated a little bit. The ICA gahmen did not really bashed me nor insulted me. All the officer said was "How many days you want to stay?" cuz I didn't fill out the number of days field in the D/E card. I told them that I have a pending EntrePass application and even showed them my application for EntrePass receipt from SingPost. He then became irritated and said, "30 days! Your EntrePass is subject to approval by MOM. You find a good job and make big salary huh." He became a little suspicious and started checking every page on my passport. Then he consulted another ICA border officer and the other officer asked me whether I had worked in Singapore before and I said yes. Finally, everything was clear to them what my situation was and they let me enter Singapore for 30 days.


The ICA officer did say the right thing: IPA still means MOM is yet to issue you an entre-pass, and to imply that you will get the entre-pass and ICA MUST GIVE YOU longer stay of course, is not correct, and you are quoting one govt agency to another govt agency. And at any time, MOM could still refuse to issue your Entre-pass, for hundred and one reasons .. even with an IPA ..

Immigration officers will get suspicious, anywhere in the world, when you start to ask things .. or wave paperwork, when not asked for ..

And immigration officers have every right to check all your pages, and also consult another officer if they need clarification ..

And I still don't know which of the above ticked you off . .. that a govt servant was doing his / her duty, or didn't treat you like a general (as your nick implies) ????

You are quite a character ... or not ...

Night, and I hope to hear from you, maybe in 3 days time, when you have read and formed an opinion about MS ??? :) Is that good ???

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Postby generalsu » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 5:05 am

ecureilx wrote:
generalsu wrote:Is your English OK? I do not know, I would have to hear you first before making any sort of judgment.


You can start off by reading MS previous postings here, for a start, before you draw any judgement (not that I am not gonna bother anyway .. I have high regards for MS, and so do many here, and that stays, in my opinion ..)

Speaking about the ICA, I probably exaggerated a little bit. The ICA gahmen did not really bashed me nor insulted me. All the officer said was "How many days you want to stay?" cuz I didn't fill out the number of days field in the D/E card. I told them that I have a pending EntrePass application and even showed them my application for EntrePass receipt from SingPost. He then became irritated and said, "30 days! Your EntrePass is subject to approval by MOM. You find a good job and make big salary huh." He became a little suspicious and started checking every page on my passport. Then he consulted another ICA border officer and the other officer asked me whether I had worked in Singapore before and I said yes. Finally, everything was clear to them what my situation was and they let me enter Singapore for 30 days.


The ICA officer did say the right thing: IPA still means MOM is yet to issue you an entre-pass, and to imply that you will get the entre-pass and ICA MUST GIVE YOU longer stay of course, is not correct, and you are quoting one govt agency to another govt agency. And at any time, MOM could still refuse to issue your Entre-pass, for hundred and one reasons .. even with an IPA ..

Immigration officers will get suspicious, anywhere in the world, when you start to ask things .. or wave paperwork, when not asked for ..

And immigration officers have every right to check all your pages, and also consult another officer if they need clarification ..

And I still don't know which of the above ticked you off . .. that a govt servant was doing his / her duty, or didn't treat you like a general (as your nick implies) ????

You are quite a character ... or not ...

Night, and I hope to hear from you, maybe in 3 days time, when you have read and formed an opinion about MS ??? :) Is that good ???


Look, I am not going to go through all his post just to form an opinion about him. We got off to a bad start by him being immature instead of helpful. My first impression of him stays, unless he decides to explain himself. Your opinion of him is your opinion, likewise, my first impression of him is my first impression of him. Let's keep it that way.

Instead of wasting my time trying to read all his post, I got much better and much more important things to do like get my company up and running and get my $50,000 together.

Lastly, I must say you are quite the character yourself along with your sidekicks.

ecureilx, sundaymorningstaples and MS (The bullying trio) LOL!

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:55 am

generalsu wrote:ecureilx, sundaymorningstaples and MS (The bullying trio) LOL!


Couldn't resist .. yeah, I know I am not in your christmas list, but .. YOU THE MAN :D :D

Ask not what the others did to you, but share what you did to the others ... :)

Have a wonderful weekend



MS/SMS: Too bad, you guys MUST give me admission to the exclusive "bullying trio" club .. :D The self-righteous General has issued commands to such effect .. Resistance is Futile ..

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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 9:17 pm

I'm feeling left out.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:43 pm

That's okay SE, he was swooning over you in another post. In fact, I think he may have had an orgasm singing your praises the the other thread. I didn't think you had it in ya! :lol: Least I hope you didn't! :o :oops:

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:49 pm

I thought my photo-comment quite witty. But then again it was my 2am and your 8am :) :cool:

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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:13 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:That's okay SE, he was swooning over you in another post. In fact, I think he may have had an orgasm singing your praises the the other thread. I didn't think you had it in ya! :lol: Least I hope you didn't! :o :oops:


He doth not know me! My current set of employees hide under their cubicle desks when I show up.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 14 Oct 2011 2:40 am

SE, you can always take my place anytime. I was just correcting his attitude and perception on others and he goes ballistic on me.
BTW he likens very much. You have to give him big hug and kisses
:D
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Postby generalsu » Fri, 14 Oct 2011 5:19 am

Mad Scientist wrote:SE, you can always take my place anytime. I was just correcting his attitude and perception on others and he goes ballistic on me.
BTW he likens very much. You have to give him big hug and kisses
:D


LMAO, can't wait for that one to come!


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