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What happens if you ditch NS?

Postby Pazo5 » Sun, 25 Sep 2011 8:19 am

My parents keep saying that if I don't do NS, then they'll go to jail. They won't tell me anything beyond that, which is a bit annoying. I keep getting told that I owe Singapore something, but I left the country when I was 3. I don't think I owe them anything.

If I had the choice of ditching NS, and never being allowed to come back (without getting arrested/or fined), then I would be okay with it. My mother is from Singapore, my dad is from Malaysia. I don't know if that is relevant, but I thought it was a worth a mention.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 25 Sep 2011 9:57 am

Have a read of the NS threads that have Mad Scientist's posts in them. You will find all the information you need. The short of it? If you are over 13 years of age, were born to a Singaporean Parent in Singapore, you are stuck with NS. If you are under 13 you still have a chance. But it's a very tricky affair and easily botched up. Your parent would still have to post bond or a surety though. Additionally, if you "skip" NS. You stand the chance of being picked up at Changi even if you are in transit now.

In the words of Dirty Harry, Do you feel lucky?

Grow some cojones, dude!

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Postby Pazo5 » Sun, 25 Sep 2011 9:43 pm

Appreciate the reply. But will my parents be ARRESTED if I don't do NS?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:14 pm

Doubtful, but if that's all you care about, so much for Filial Piety. The fact that you could cost them 70 to 150K dollars doesn't bother you? As I said, grow some cojones.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 5:39 am

Pazo5 wrote:Appreciate the reply. But will my parents be ARRESTED if I don't do NS?


I think this more than what you may preceived since one of them is from Malaysia and Singapore respectively, there are two scenarios that can be played out . Firstly if they lived in SG, a knock at the door from CMPB officers is the first order of the day if you became NS defaulters. Your parent may or may not be fine with $3K depending on its merit and this will depends if the army prosecutors wishes to proceed with a court summon
Second if all of you are living in Malaysia, your parents and yourself may be caught during entering to Singapore if a warrant of arrest is being issued.
Apart from not be able to return to SG, extending your SG PP or even renouncing it if you chose to go with M'sia PP at the age of 21, the implications of your stupidity has far more reaching consequences.
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Postby Pazo5 » Wed, 28 Sep 2011 1:28 am

I don't live in Singapore or Malaysia. I live in Ireland, and I already have dual citizenship.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 28 Sep 2011 1:59 am

Since you sound such a prize charmer here's my advice, throw your SG passport in the bin and sod the consequences.

There, is that the answer you were looking for?

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Postby Pazo5 » Wed, 28 Sep 2011 4:18 am

JR8 wrote:Since you sound such a prize charmer here's my advice, throw your SG passport in the bin and sod the consequences.

There, is that the answer you were looking for?


What are the consequences?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 28 Sep 2011 6:54 am

First of all, if you did not return to serve NS when you turn 18, you are considered as a defaulter which carries a fine of $10K or three years jails or both. There are alot of reports and news of this matter over the years. The recent one is the chap which is already 55 years of age and got caught while entering SG on a different PP and found to be a NS defaulter during random routine spot check at the airport and due to his parent negligence where he is totally unaware of, he got caught. Damn !!
Your parents will be fine for $3K for failure to drag you back to SG to serve NS. It does not matter if you lives in M'sia or Ireland even Timbuktu , if you or your parents do not give a damn and do not care one bit of the damn and damn the NS and all the damn regulations of the damn Gahmen till kingdom come.Then just do not damn yourself one foot to SG not even transit coz, the Gahmen sure be damn to damned you in jail.
BTW just do not renew your SG PP and your parent too.
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Postby Asian_Geekette » Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:06 pm

The nice thing about Singapore is that it's a regional transportation hub. :) Now, even if the OP chooses his flights carefully in the future, who's to say that his trip around or across Asia Pacific will be smooth? For all we know, he'll have the unfortunate chance of being in a plane which needs to do an emergency landing in Singapore! :P This has happened several times!
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Postby Pazo5 » Thu, 29 Sep 2011 1:14 am

What happens if my parents stay in SG, and I don't?

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 29 Sep 2011 1:32 am

'Yeah round 'n around 'n up 'n down we go again'


There was a defaulter here asking questions some time ago. His mother was in Singapore, and was terminally ill. She could not travel and he could not visit her. The potential ramifications are wide.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 29 Sep 2011 3:40 am

JR8 wrote:'Yeah round 'n around 'n up 'n down we go again'


There was a defaulter here asking questions some time ago. His mother was in Singapore, and was terminally ill. She could not travel and he could not visit her. The potential ramifications are wide.


I was the recipient to that comms via PM . All I can say , choices we made now may will have future ramifications.

To OP : if your parents decides to live here in SG, so much the better for the Gahmen. It will not going to be a living hell for them but the constant knock on the door for the next two to three years will be abit too much for old folks. Apart from the fine for failing to haul you back, yeah this will be your best "brilliant" move ditching your parent after all the things they have provided for you. Nice one mate !!
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Postby Pazo5 » Thu, 29 Sep 2011 4:08 am

I don't want to 'ditch' my parents. If it comes to the point that I ditch NS and won't be able to see them anymore, then I'll do my NS. But until then, I'll keep on trying to find a way to avoid it.

BTW, my parents and I live in Ireland. My grandparents live in SG and Malaysia. My dad hasn't seen his mother in about 5 years, so ditching must run in the family.

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 29 Sep 2011 4:11 am

So what was your question again?

How can you avoid doing NS, without any consequences?


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