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Post by YankStuckinSuiss » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 5:17 pm

Thank all of you for your advice, it is much appreciated. I took most of it when doing the application. I'm pretty excited. All the sudden recruiters want to call me back now. haha
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 5:21 pm

Well, I reckon your asking price should have just doubled. And the drinks are on you.
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Post by nutnut » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 6:05 pm

Great news Yank, really chuffed for you :)

Hopefuly this is the beginning of the job offers now! Make sure you get that information on the top of your CV in massive writing PEP...
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Post by YankStuckinSuiss » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 9:48 pm

Yeah we should have a Sing expat get together...

Thanks for the support guys. Yeah I am not sure why they approved me but rejected people recently who have been working hear for years. Yes, I was qualified according to the requirements, but a lot of people are. And there are IT Business Analyst and Database Application Support folks here... It seems quite odd. Well, I know now, if I like it here, I will be applying for PR status at the first opportunity. :D

Oh well, I'm not complaining. I just got sexy to recruiters, more folks than normal are responding to my mailing list. haha
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Post by ausinsg » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 6:35 am

Congrats! You should enjoy the change of scene! :)

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Post by Mi Amigo » Wed, 18 Apr 2012 6:04 pm

Congratulations! Glad to hear it worked out well for you. Good luck for the continuing job search.
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Post by YankStuckinSuiss » Wed, 18 Apr 2012 8:10 pm

just got back from another recruiter interview. On the phone she said their was a role, but when I got there was no role, she just wanted to meet and go over my resume. I've been on 3 of these in the last 3 weeks. No meeting with a client/decision maker yet.

Typically in America and in German speaking Europe if they call you into an office and you are not a complete jackass you will be getting an interview with their client, if not they don't bother to call you in at all.

Here they just call you in to chat and meet you with no intention of arranging an interview or not even a job available.

Only one pending with an MNC, but they came back and told the recruiter they now want someone who can also speak Mandarin! After over a month HR at that company decides they need a Mandarin speaker?

The recruiter I met today said a lot of companies feel political pressure to hire locals, even if I have a PEP, some just want to hire more locals, but the problem is, as she said, there are few locals to be found at the price the companies want to pay. :???: Catch 22 or Cluster $#*@

Anyway, she suggested I try to meet people by Linked In, hiring managers, and call them directly and ask them about jobs, which kind of gave me an idea did not think she could really help me or felt it was too much work. She then asked me to give her a list of all companies i was tracking, that I have applied to, etc (so her company would not have conflict) and then what companies I most want to work with and they could call the hiring managers, etc. I somehow doubt they are going to go through all this for me, for positions that are not even posted, at my level, they aren't going to make that much money off me...
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 18 Apr 2012 9:07 pm

We told you in the very beginning, even with a PEP it wasn't going to be easy........ 8-[
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Post by YankStuckinSuiss » Wed, 18 Apr 2012 9:28 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:We told you in the very beginning, even with a PEP it wasn't going to be easy........ 8-[
true...well I was going to give myself some time, only been here 3 week.

I guess it is the recruiters that annoy me. :) Not much else.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:01 pm

You've made it this far, now you need patience & persistence. :wink:
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Post by Mi Amigo » Mon, 14 May 2012 3:38 pm

Hey YankStuckinSuiss, how's the job search going?
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Post by YankStuckinSuiss » Mon, 14 May 2012 5:05 pm

It's real slow. I've had initial interviews with 3 companies, one a fortune 500, one a consultancy, and the other just some middling Euro company. The consultancy is supposed to make a decision on me any day now. The other two are VERY VERY slow. They have both told me I'm short-listed for another interview, however no new meetings have been set-up. The Fortune 500, said maybe at the end of this month, which would be an entire month after my initial interview. Sometimes i wonder are these people serious about hiring anyone, and do they think that their is a labor market, and that top talent won't wait around for 2-3 months while they get their 'ish together to arrange multiple interviews.

I've been here a month in Singapore and have had 3 interviews directly with companies, which is good, but then what?

The entire thing seems retarded. I've worked in the U.S., Japan, and Europe before and it NEVER TOOK more than 1 month to conclude interviews, the only reason I was not in the door inside a month was due to background checks! What does HR and hiring managers do that is so much more time consuming than people in Germany, Switzerland, the U.S., and Japan????
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Post by nutnut » Mon, 14 May 2012 8:27 pm

Oh man, tell me about it! 3 months for a role in Singapore is kinda average! Sucks doesn't it?
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 14 May 2012 10:40 pm

You were duly warned by us early on, if you remember....
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by YankStuckinSuiss » Mon, 11 Jun 2012 4:21 pm

I got a job at a local Singaporean company as an IT PM on a CRM/Business Intelligence Tool project, but I will spend most of my time in another APAC nation on a project, although I will be legally working in Singapore, etc. Not exactly what I was hoping for, but it's a good opportunity and a promotion. Good enough...it's contact work, so 6 months initial, maybe extend for 6 months, at least I get experience in Singapore and APAC.

From the time I moved to Singapore , took me about 6 weeks to find a job, can't complain.
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