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Post by zzm9980 » Tue, 19 Jun 2012 7:09 pm

Can't speak for all banks, but Citi has bucket loads of VPs. Even individual contributors have VP titles there.

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Post by futurebiz1 » Tue, 19 Jun 2012 9:18 pm

zzm9980 wrote:Can't speak for all banks, but Citi has bucket loads of VPs. Even individual contributors have VP titles there.
Agree. I work in a bank and in my team of 10, there are 4 VPs.It's considered a mid-level designation. I know people in the age group 29-31 who are VPs and it is not that they are doing extraordinary work.

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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 9:13 am

JR8 wrote:In my experience banks work on around the same ratios. That is why you'll see job ads describing a position, and then saying that is it AVP, VP or SVP level etc...

Just admit you're wrong, it would be simpler :P :wink:
Ok, I admit I am wrong ..

then how does the Senior AVP / Senior VP fit it ?





Coat, Hat, Brolly .. :twisted:

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Post by JR8 » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 9:20 am

ecureilx wrote: then how does the Senior AVP / Senior VP fit it ?

Nah AVP is like a tea-boy who has brown nosed a bit, VP like head of the tea making project. SVP is getting up there.... that's like being a Managing Director I suppose...

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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 9:29 am

JR8 wrote: Nah AVP is like a tea-boy who has brown nosed a bit, VP like head of the tea making project. SVP is getting up there.... that's like being a Managing Director I suppose...
And, that, the learned members of the audience, is Project Management 101

You may not be off the mark .. the bigger the company, the more there are Indian Chiefs ;)

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:40 am

ecureilx wrote:
You may not be off the mark .. the bigger the company, the more there are Indian Chiefs ;)
Yeah but the Gahmen are trying to fix that now. :-|
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Post by JR8 » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 4:42 pm

Was that irony? :lol:

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 5:38 pm

:devil:
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Post by BillyB » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 7:25 pm

ecureilx wrote:
JR8 wrote:In my experience banks work on around the same ratios. That is why you'll see job ads describing a position, and then saying that is it AVP, VP or SVP level etc...

Just admit you're wrong, it would be simpler :P :wink:
Ok, I admit I am wrong ..

then how does the Senior AVP / Senior VP fit it ?





Coat, Hat, Brolly .. :twisted:
From a banking perspective, VP is basically the first rung in a managerial role - you'll have a bunch of donuts reporting in to you. You might even get to sign-off little things if you're really good!; usually things directors or ED's can't be bothered with. Empowering through delegation!

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Post by JR8 » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 7:30 pm

They have products for ED in America.

(We Brits don't need it :cool: )

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:05 pm

JR8 wrote:They have products for ED in America.

(We Brits don't need it :cool: )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_so ... ility_rate

apparently you do. :lol: :P
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Post by JR8 » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:13 pm

Half your country are Mexicans who go like rabbits.

Hey your prezedint just let another 800k of them vote for him, er, I mean, allowed them work permits to stay.

Only peasants breed these days it seems, must be why SG wants all those PRCs in too.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:44 pm

40% of yours are Indians, 40% are Eastern Europeans. the remaining 20% Brits, well, less said the better I guess. Oh, by the way, how many sprogs to you have? :P
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Post by Mi Amigo » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:46 pm

JR8 wrote:Nah AVP is like a tea-boy who has brown nosed a bit, VP like head of the tea making project. SVP is getting up there.... that's like being a Managing Director I suppose...
Am I the only one who finds all this job title inflation utterly ridiculous (and rather pathetic)?

In the company I work for, every sales person has at least the designation 'manager' in their job title, even though most of them have no staff reporting to them. The other day I had a hard time keeping a straight face when someone gave me their business card, which included the title 'Manager of Product Management'.
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Be careful what you wish for

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Post by JR8 » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:47 pm

Haha, that was funny.

We have five children now.

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