Returning to Singapore after renouncing PR & CPF withdrawal

[ronaldleft]

Hello there, would appreciate if some of you experienced and knowledgeable folks could comment on my chances of returning to SG to work. The following are my details:

-30 year old Ethnic Chinese with Brunei citizenship
-Lived and studied in Singapore for over 20 years since the age of 3 till 26
-Over 6 years of experience in the Aviation industry
-Earned all education certs in Singapore, up to a B.Eng(Hons) from NTU
-Received SAF letter upon graduation saying I am EXEMPTED from NS.
-Worked for 3 years (1 year on EP Q type, 2 years on Professional SPR status
-Departed Singapore in early 2008 to work in Brunei, renounced SPR status in late 2009 and withdrew all CPF monies

I have now been offered a job by a large aviation MNC, with a salary in the EP P2 category, and am awaiting approval from the MOM.

Please share your experiences on whether someone with my background would still be able to secure an EP. I am worried that SPR renouncement and withdrawal of CPF would adversely affect my chances of being granted an EP.

THANKS!

[sundaymorningstaple]

Providing necessity of hiring a foreigner can be met with MOM, you should have any problem returning on an EP. However, it is doubtful that you will ever regain PR. (Unless you reinstate all CPF monies withdrawn and any interest that would have accrued had it been left intact) Even then, they may or may not agree to PR again. Seen it denied before.

[ronaldleft]

thanks alot for the kind response sir. much appreciated.

[ronaldleft]

Hi all,

Just wish to provide a follow up. My EP application was submitted online on the 25th August, and approved on the 5th September. Exactly 7 working days.

Thanks SMS once again for your input.

[zantac]

30 year old Ethnic Chinese with Brunei citizenship
-Lived and studied in Singapore for over 20 years since the age of 3 till 26
-Over 6 years of experience in the Aviation industry
-Earned all education certs in Singapore, up to a B.Eng(Hons) from NTU
-Received SAF letter upon graduation saying I am EXEMPTED from NS.
-Worked for 3 years (1 year on EP Q type, 2 years on Professional SPR status
-Departed Singapore in early 2008 to work in Brunei, renounced SPR status in late 2009 and withdrew all CPF monies

I have now been offered a job by a large aviation MNC, with a salary in the EP P2 category, and am awaiting approval from the MOM.

Please share your experiences on whether someone with my background would still be able to secure an EP. I am worried that SPR renouncement and withdrawal of CPF would adversely affect my chances of being granted an EP.
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Hi,

Could I ask how you managed to stay till age 26yrs and not do NS?
We are moving to SG soon and I have son BBC and thought he'd have to serve if we are here permanently? He is scared when he over heard other ppl talking about NS.

BTW congrats on yr EP. Ours took like a whole year.

[ronaldleft]

Zantac,

Although my mom was a PR long before, I never did apply for one as a dependent, but stayed on in Singapore under a student pass. Like I said, I started work with an EP, and then later applied for a PR under the skilled professionals scheme.
If I am not mistaken, only 2nd Generation PRs are required to serve NS.
Hope this helps.

[nakatago]

Although my mom was a PR long before, I never did apply for one as a dependent, but stayed on in Singapore under a student pass..

Be careful with this route. ICA doesn't seem* to like individual family members applying for PR with any or the rest of them don't. This tells them, regardless if it applies to you or not, "this person/couple" probably won't stay in Singapore for long, otherwise, they would've taken their whole family along with their application."

*No one here really knows what they're thinking. We can only speculate from the patterns emerging from the stream of rejections lately.

[sundaymorningstaple]

This won't impact his application for an EP, but it would definitely have an adverse impact on his application for PR.

[nakatago]

This won't impact his application for an EP, but it would definitely have an adverse impact on his application for PR.

Ah yes, of course. Thanks for highlighting that.

[zantac]

Rolandleft,


Thanks for the information, much appreciated.

My son is only 8yrs old and was having a melt down when he overheard other ppl. lol.

Too young to explain a lot but just old enough to be freaked out when he knows Army = guns, tanks....then dead! (he is only little)

[beppi]

Too young to explain a lot but just old enough to be freaked out when he knows Army = guns, tanks....then dead!
(he is only little)

... but already smarter than many adults!

[JR8]

Rolandleft,


Thanks for the information, much appreciated.

My son is only 8yrs old and was having a melt down when he overheard other ppl. lol.

Too young to explain a lot but just old enough to be freaked out when he knows Army = guns, tanks....then dead! (he is only little)

I'd look at NS as more a useful right of passage than something to be avoided like the plague. It might just make a man of the child.

Dead? No, I don't think any SGns have been killed in combat in the last 50 years. More die going and swimming off Sentosa.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Rolandleft,


Thanks for the information, much appreciated.

My son is only 8yrs old and was having a melt down when he overheard other ppl. lol.

Too young to explain a lot but just old enough to be freaked out when he knows Army = guns, tanks....then dead! (he is only little)

Just tell him to always make sure his side has the biggest guns & tanks. He'll understand that. Mine did. He's in the Singapore Navy doing his NS as the moment.

[zantac]

zantac wrote:
Rolandleft,


Thanks for the information, much appreciated.

My son is only 8yrs old and was having a melt down when he overheard other ppl. lol.

Too young to explain a lot but just old enough to be freaked out when he knows Army = guns, tanks....then dead! (he is only little)
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sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Just tell him to always make sure his side has the biggest guns & tanks. He'll understand that. Mine did. He's in the Singapore Navy doing his NS as the moment.
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Thanks Sundaymorningstaple,

Will try that approach, bit like Poweranger or ACME moment..lol.
My father was in the army and he believed it did him good! but it is up to my son in the end and I hope he makes a good choice later when and if he has to choose.
Cheers.


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[sundaymorningstaple]

zantac,

My father was in the Navy in WWII
I was in the Army during Vietnam. '
Hopefully he will only do peacetime NS in Singapore and it's surrounds. He does, however, understand what it means. I've had these conversations with him since he was around 6 years old (usually just after his birthday every year. In the beginning, it went in one ear and out the other (but left it's imprint inside anyway) as he got older he understood more and more. By the time it was getting near, he was ready and is ready now to do whatever is expected of him. He understands the basic concept of duty. Hopefully your son will as well.

sms