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Postby JR8 » Thu, 08 Sep 2011 3:39 pm

I was caned at school and it wasn't fun at the time, but in retrospect I am strongly pro corporal punishment.

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Postby ksl » Thu, 08 Sep 2011 6:12 pm

JR8 wrote:I was caned at school and it wasn't fun at the time, but in retrospect I am strongly pro corporal punishment.
I was also caned at school many times, also by the headmaster in front of assembly, as well as the teachers.

I must say we were mostly at a disadvantage having been streamed into the bottom class for not doing the 11 plus exam, there were also gangs at school, which resulted in many fights, normally from different housing estates. The teachers could also be a little inhuman, i recall having my head split open when a teacher threw the blackboard duster at me, and the maths teacher picking me up by my sideburns, the b------d

Though all hell broke lose when my mother went down to the school to kick ass, as i came home after one of the teachers grabbed me by my shirt front and ripped it. The teachers were real bastards back then, though i must admit they had to deal with some real tossers, that wouldn't think twice of sticking the head on them.

I excepted most of the punishment without complaint if i did wrong, though being caned for being late for school was a bit much, never had computers in those days, but still i never went to bed until 3 or 4 a.m

I'm all for the cane in school!

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 08 Sep 2011 6:20 pm

Lol at your story KSL!

Think I got caned four times in total, and I think only one of those was merited (kicking the evil bastard of a deputy head's dog).

Fact is though, what ever I got caned for I will never do again. Isn't that the point?

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Postby x9200 » Thu, 08 Sep 2011 9:24 pm

We had this discussion before - although I am not against the judicial caning, comparing it to the school caning is a grooooooooooss misunderstanding. Search it out, I included earlier a link to a page with a video. This is a butchery.

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:23 pm

Good. Justice is meant to be punishment not a holiday.

One of my family got caned (in SG) not so long ago. Probably the best thing that happened to him (sounds flippant, but is not intended to be).

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Postby aster » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 6:05 am

JR8 wrote:One of my family got caned (in SG) not so long ago. Probably the best thing that happened to him (sounds flippant, but is not intended to be).


Spray-can "artist"?

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 6:08 am

aster wrote:
JR8 wrote:One of my family got caned (in SG) not so long ago. Probably the best thing that happened to him (sounds flippant, but is not intended to be).


Spray-can "artist"?


Feck off punk.


(:lol: :lol:)

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Postby richie303 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:22 am

This stuff is an interesting read, although, hardly Midnight Express ;)
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Postby Brah » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:10 am

Agree, but there is punishment and there is punishment.

I just don't believe for those few holdouts who perpetuate physical justice that it accurately demonstrates forward progress for a supposedly evolving species.


JR8 wrote:Good. Justice is meant to be punishment not a holiday.

One of my family got caned (in SG) not so long ago. Probably the best thing that happened to him (sounds flippant, but is not intended to be).

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Postby ksl » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 2:12 pm

Brah wrote:Agree, but there is punishment and there is punishment.

I just don't believe for those few holdouts who perpetuate physical justice that it accurately demonstrates forward progress for a supposedly evolving species.


JR8 wrote:Good. Justice is meant to be punishment not a holiday.

One of my family got caned (in SG) not so long ago. Probably the best thing that happened to him (sounds flippant, but is not intended to be).


supposedly evolving species
Evolving species is key, there was a time in UK 40 years ago, were gun crime didn't exist. Punishment was much harsher and governments took little notice of human rights!

The evolution appears to have an American slant to it, with the social structure of building walls around the rich and middle class, they very rarely see what goes on in the more depressed areas of society, where local politics and police tend to ignore the problems the term 'Hoodies' and rap is now a favourite cult, and lets face it the baseball caps really does suit some of the idiots.

I think evolution of a species with the tendency to use survival skills, kill or be killed will continue, Countries will fight wars, create wars, torture, lie and deceive for their own benefit. I cannot see evolution improving much more than it is today, but I do see another 3rd world war in the next 20 years and a step backwards. Natural disasters and over population is a world concern, that must reach a peak!

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Postby richie303 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 3:07 pm

ksl wrote:
Brah wrote:Agree, but there is punishment and there is punishment.

I just don't believe for those few holdouts who perpetuate physical justice that it accurately demonstrates forward progress for a supposedly evolving species.


JR8 wrote:Good. Justice is meant to be punishment not a holiday.

One of my family got caned (in SG) not so long ago. Probably the best thing that happened to him (sounds flippant, but is not intended to be).


supposedly evolving species
Evolving species is key, there was a time in UK 40 years ago, were gun crime didn't exist. Punishment was much harsher and governments took little notice of human rights!

The evolution appears to have an American slant to it, with the social structure of building walls around the rich and middle class, they very rarely see what goes on in the more depressed areas of society, where local politics and police tend to ignore the problems the term 'Hoodies' and rap is now a favourite cult, and lets face it the baseball caps really does suit some of the idiots.

I think evolution of a species with the tendency to use survival skills, kill or be killed will continue, Countries will fight wars, create wars, torture, lie and deceive for their own benefit. I cannot see evolution improving much more than it is today, but I do see another 3rd world war in the next 20 years and a step backwards. Natural disasters and over population is a world concern, that must reach a peak!


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Postby JR8 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 3:07 pm

aster wrote:
JR8 wrote:One of my family got caned (in SG) not so long ago. Probably the best thing that happened to him (sounds flippant, but is not intended to be).


Spray-can "artist"?


Sorry, serious answer this time ;): I understand he was a bad-a$$ gang member.

Jail turned his life around so completely; the govt recently gave his latest venture a $1/4m grant.

Brah, the problem with the abolishment of corporal punishment is that the promised alternative is meant to be 'less brutal' but just as effective. But the public do not believe the alternative is as effective.

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Postby Brah » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 5:50 pm

Don't know, but the best way is to probably look to where it isn't used and that proves effective.

Case in opposite point is the use of guns by police in the States and the amount of gun-related crime, whereas before in the UK was less so and with less guns there were less homicides per capita. I am not a facts and figures guy, but I do believe there is a parallel, albeit opposite one, here.

JR8 wrote:Brah, the problem with the abolishment of corporal punishment is that the promised alternative is meant to be 'less brutal' but just as effective. But the public do not believe the alternative is as effective.

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 9:04 pm

Brah wrote:Case in opposite point is the use of guns by police in the States and the amount of gun-related crime, whereas before in the UK was less so and with less guns there were less homicides per capita. I am not a facts and figures guy, but I do believe there is a parallel, albeit opposite one, here.


Don't know how relevant that might be.

Case in point. Guns used to be legal in the UK, and there was little gun crime. Now guns are illegal and the rate of gun crime has gone off the chart.

Where is the correlation, if any?

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Postby earthfriendly » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:54 pm

ksl wrote:
The evolution appears to have an American slant to it, with the social structure of building walls around the rich and middle class, they very rarely see what goes on in the more depressed areas of society, where local politics and police tend to ignore the problems the term 'Hoodies' and rap is now a favourite cult, and lets face it the baseball caps really does suit some of the idiots.



Times had an article on the English riot. There's a huge divide between the haves and have-nots and the USA being the next country with huge inequality. Which I am being more aware. Each class (upper, middle and lower) lives in its own cocoon with all its insularity, quite separate from each other. Much as I would like to see the world / country as one big place friendly to all human kind, it ain't gonna happen soon. There seems to be more dividing rather than unifying us as a race. I see more judgmentality and intolerance rather than acceptance. More close-mindedness rather than open-mindedness.


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