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Postby traderwu » Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:13 pm

Agreed with Billy on this.


I honestly don't want Singapore go into what the USA currently is. Now people just come to the USA to get on the welfare system. Free food, free house, free medical and dental care. Some city is pushing for free cell phone. WTF.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:16 pm

Traderwu, lets look at the subsidies that are given to Singaporeans, shall we? Actually I think you have the US and the UK mixed up. :roll:

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Postby BillyB » Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:44 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Billy, frankly I'm damned glad to see it come. Far too many totally useless FT's here, and most are overpaid to boot. The Gahmen only have themselves to blame, eschewing common sense in their quest for higher GDP and "look at us patting ourselves on the back" that they like to flaunt around the world. Now, they are paying the price and FT's are going to learn what it was like 30 years ago, the hoops one had to jump through to come here. It was far to easy for the past 12-15 years. They could actually get ride of probablly 60% of the FT's currently here and not even dent their GDP. Of course, the locals would have to change their habits as well then, as they would actually have to do some work instead of just finding ways to take the credit for what others have done........ :-|


It's an interesting dilemma - how do you keep the locals happy but also ensure that your GDPPP remains high, tax revenues don't take a sharp dip, and that Singapore remains economically competitive and continues to foster sustained economic growth?

You're right in that you could shave off quite a lot of the numbers without changing the dynamic too much. But after that - I think you are entering into dangerous ground as the potential for a knock-on effect increases if too many reductions are made and revenues decrease, then the locals start to feel the pinch as GST and income tax need to be raised to fund the shortfall, or alternatively cuts implemented. It's a bit of a catch 22.

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Postby therat » Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:44 pm

I had no problem on foreigner come to work in Singapore.
Real working.
Not just doing lip services. Bring their culture into Singapore and expect us to follow them.
And keep on telling us, he's belong to Caste system high level (just an example)

For those really can work and perform, will earn the respect
For those who can't work and only perform lip service, will earn disrespect.

Respect need to earn for it.
Not using family background or what caste system.

Basically all these anti-Foreigner feeling is not build by overnight.

It's build by yrs. And the government is paying back for seating in a high chair which their leg not able to feel the earth.

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Postby JaanJ » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 8:54 am

+1

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 9:16 am

therat wrote:I had no problem on foreigner come to work in Singapore.
Real working.
Not just doing lip services. Bring their culture into Singapore and expect us to follow them.
And keep on telling us, he's belong to Caste system high level (just an example)

For those really can work and perform, will earn the respect
For those who can't work and only perform lip service, will earn disrespect.

Respect need to earn for it.
Not using family background or what caste system.

Basically all these anti-Foreigner feeling is not build by overnight.

It's build by yrs. And the government is paying back for seating in a high chair which their leg not able to feel the earth.


A good thing to also remember, respect is a two-way street isn't it......

A gold-bricking local employee, riding on the back of hard work of imported talent, or other local employees, garners no respect either.

Where I came from, we were always told to make sure our own steps were swept before complaining about the neighbours. :-)

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Postby therat » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 9:51 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:A good thing to also remember, respect is a two-way street isn't it......

Agree on what you had say.. respect is 2-way street.

sundaymorningstaple wrote:A gold-bricking local employee, riding on the back of hard work of imported talent, or other local employees, garners no respect either.

respect need to earn for it.
Regardless is foreigner or local people.

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Where I came from, we were always told to make sure our own steps were swept before complaining about the neighbours. :-)


No one is prefect.
There are no prefect country.
Each country has angel and devil.

My father told me, when you pointing 1 finger to others, the rest of your finger is pointing at yourself.
So before finger pointing, ask yourself.
Can you do better?
Did you do it?

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Postby singaporeflyer » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:07 am

P2 Pass would also be affected? Any idea?

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Postby nakatago » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:32 am

singaporeflyer wrote:P2 Pass would also be affected? Any idea?


From 3500 to 4000.

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Postby singaporeflyer » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:48 pm

It is already changed from 3500 to 4000. And I think there is again an increase to be done right?

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Postby nakatago » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 1:22 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:It is already changed from 3500 to 4000. And I think there is again an increase to be done right?


Basterds.

Oh well, I'll grab my hat, coat and umbrella...

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Postby singaporeflyer » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 1:54 pm

nakatago, better not to make such a comment. Mine was just a clarification.

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Postby nakatago » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 1:58 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:nakatago, better not to make such a comment. Mine was just a clarification.


you're not the basterd. it was an obviously-missed-humorous reference to how some people would feel frustrated about a situation and absently calling the people responsible for the situation bastards for making it frustrating for the person. the misspelling is a reference to a tarantino film.

the next line is a reference, to which, after getting over the frustration, an acceptance of the situation and hence taking action about it, which is, i.e., just leaving and moving on.

the juxtaposition of the anger followed by dismissive acceptance is a comic device or trope commonly used in some situation comedies.

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Postby singaporeflyer » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 2:07 pm

ok.

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Postby bobypf » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 2:18 pm

I started having the feeling as if I'm watching a sitcom.

P.S.: nakatago, do you know how French call the Big Mac? ;)


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