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Postby JR8 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 7:56 am

OP has PRs from NZ, UK and probably somewhere in China (he aint a born Brit). Wife some iteration of that, 3 or more of them.

Sorry but I find it hard to sympathize with badge/PR collectors. Can't you just make up your mind and settle in one 'kin country!

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Postby joshuaday11 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:02 am

JR8 wrote:OP has PRs from NZ, UK and probably somewhere in China (he aint a born Brit). Wife some iteration of that, 3 or more of them.

Sorry but I find it hard to sympathize with badge/PR collectors. Can't you just make up your mind and settle in one 'kin country!


Dear all,

I happened to stumbled to this forum by chances after months of research on my employment issues
I am seeking advise from forumers sundaymorningstaples, strong eagle, ksl,saint for my predicament.
I am a dual citizen of NZ/UK. My wife is a Singaporean with Hongkong and New Zealand PRs where we live there for sometime. My first son was born in 2003 in Hong Kong. My second son was born in New Zealand in 2005.


JR8 !!! before you started lambasting me. PLEASE READ MY EARLIER POST.

Never did I mention I am a PR of of NZ/UK.

I AM a citizen of NZ and UK. I was born in Greater Manchester.
You should be your glasses on before you start putting people down.
My wife has been living in HongKong all her life. Only recently we moved to New Zealand as we were offered to take up the same roles in NZ. To take up the job in SG is immaterial to me at this point of time. If it turns out to be custard , so be it. I am more concerned of the guidelines written by ICA on my children.
For Pete's sake , if you cannot contribute or provide inputs to this thread please sit in the corner and hold your tongue !!
I am not here to look for a fight nor quarrel, I just thought that given the wealth of knowledge you guys have, I may find some answers here.
I find your post very insulting

@SMS : Your comments do hold some water. I will check it out and reply what I found. I did not know Mad Scientist was in trouble with SG authorities just for advising people here in the forum. It is rather sad that this has happpened.
Or well..... I will do my own soul searching. Thank you for your time and patience.

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Postby Gammaa » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 3:11 pm

joshuaday11

You have already got the proof in your hands. The letter you have received is telling you in black and white, superseding all others.
REJECT and REVOKE even if they are your own are very strong words. It means you understand the implications. Did your friends get such a letter?

Just because A, B, C got their way during different times do not entitle L, M, N etc to be treated likewise but on a case to case basis.
Circumstances always change. Loopholes get plugged. Policies get modified and very unfortunately and very sad, people lose their jobs!

While I can understand that your wife cannot renounce her original citizenship before getting another citizenship, the acceptance of renunciation is still at Singapore’s discretion.
You demand for answers/solutions, so let her attend the interview and ask them. Maybe it is just a formality, done at random. Maybe it is much ado over nothing or maybe they are eyeing her sons’ genes inherited from you!

MOE and SMA may be government bodies. They may strongly suggest and influence yet cannot overrule the more powerful and autonomous ICA.

You are entitled to be very defensive and protective of your family.
The government can also be paranoid about the defence of Singapore and anyone who wants to challenge them does it at his own peril.

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 3:16 pm

Apologies.

Just, reading your posts I suddenly got the 'this guy isn't English' dot appear on my radar.

Which would of suggested three passports/PR's etc each for you and your wife. We do see PR-collectors here and they tend to get short-shrift, as they make it so bloody hard for the rest of the people who have a more serious intent.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 4:11 pm

JR8 wrote:Apologies.

Just, reading your posts I suddenly got the 'this guy isn't English' dot appear on my radar.

Which would of suggested three passports/PR's etc each for you and your wife. We do see PR-collectors here and they tend to get short-shrift, as they make it so bloody hard for the rest of the people who have a more serious intent.


JR8, one of our Moderators holds three different passports AND PR here as well. AND he's not ethnic Indian either. :wink:

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 4:25 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
JR8 wrote:Apologies.

Just, reading your posts I suddenly got the 'this guy isn't English' dot appear on my radar.

Which would of suggested three passports/PR's etc each for you and your wife. We do see PR-collectors here and they tend to get short-shrift, as they make it so bloody hard for the rest of the people who have a more serious intent.


JR8, one of our Moderators holds three different passports AND PR here as well. AND he's not ethnic Indian either. :wink:


Ah yes. And yesterday he was pretending to be black too

:lol:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 4:40 pm

No, SE. :-|

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 5:08 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:No, SE. :-|


[Trying unsuccessfully to contain laughter. Still he's Texan which makes him half Mexican. Sorry SE! :) ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=LLqqZmNFa_A
Cheech & Chong mexican americans

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 8:11 pm

Actually he's Canadian by birth (Calgary). British by Descent and American by Naturalization. (I think I got it right.)

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Postby joshuaday11 » Wed, 14 Sep 2011 4:18 am

Updates Updates !!

I had received infos from MS on these issues. Thank you for taking the time in replying my questions.

God bless

Joshua

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 14 Sep 2011 9:53 am

That's great! Wish he'd contact me. Glad he contacted you and hopefully, you received some positive news.

Cheers.

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Postby joshuaday11 » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 4:18 am

Thanks SMS .

He found me at the DHB which was quite a nice surprise and we had a long chat. Contrary what was said by Gamma, he has provided me with the steps needed to correct this issue. According to him most front line officers are not aware of the nitty gritty of this guidelines.
I will not be taking the offer in SG . I will get on to his recommendation and resolve my family issues first and foremost.
I had convey your message to him. We talked as though we had known each other for ages and very helpful person.
I will keep the forum update on my issue for others to learn

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 6:57 am

Thanks. I appreciate that. In fact, I did get an email from him yesterday. :-)

Hopefully, I've sorted out a few things that were causing some interference. I am glad you have had a chance to figure out just where you stand and the process to enable you to possibly sort out things.

Cheers,
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Postby joshuaday11 » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 3:46 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Thanks. I appreciate that. In fact, I did get an email from him yesterday. :-)

Hopefully, I've sorted out a few things that were causing some interference. I am glad you have had a chance to figure out just where you stand and the process to enable you to possibly sort out things.

Cheers,
sms


Hello SMS

I do not know what you meant by the above. Anyway , just to update you ,my wife renounciation has been approved.. I have also relinquished my sons SG citizenship too. I have decline the job offer in SG
Thank you all especially you and MS for being a great help to resolve this issue. It was a nerve wrecking six months for the family
I e-mailed to MS this update last week but it seems there is no reply from him.
@MS, if you are reading this, let me know if you are in Auckland , I would like to have dinner with you with my family.

Guys whatever you are doing, please do not stop doing, you guys are my saviours. Thank you all....... Joshua and family.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 13 Oct 2011 7:06 am

I am glad you found resolution, (basically what I was saying in my quoted post) even if it wasn't what you had fully intended early on. At least now you can rest easy.

Cheers,
sms


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