Refused from entering singapore, how long i can go back?

[hiyashichuka]

hi there, i need your help...

i'm chinese but from indonesia

here's the story, first time i came to singapore nov 2009, that time i came bcause my sister who lived here, was pregnant. and bcause of her husband work til 10pm everyday (work at shopping center), she asked me to stay and help her... and the scheme is, i stay around 25-28days a month, then go back to may country for about a week, and then come back to sg.. and this scheme work from nov 2009 til 21st july 2011...

and here's the problem...

18th july, because my SVP is almost expired, i go to BKK, and 21st july, i came back to singapore from BKK with Tiger airways, once at immigration, the officer noticed my passport got many stamp and she asked me many things, and i explained as well the true story.. and she escort me to a small room on the side, didn't asked me anything and we facing a big white computer, and my finger was scanned there (fingerprinted), i don't know it's to check my record before or to record my fingerprint for banned me from entering sg again

then she escort me to small waiting room that locked from outside.. after about 30 minutes waiting, and very tired (plus hungry, please note i hve breakfast at BKK at 8.30am, and flight to sg with delay, landing at changi budget terminal at 4.30pm without eating any other food anymore, and they keep me in the small room, without giving me any food to eat, i feel they are not human at all)

after that, she came and call me to officer desk, and they interrogated me there, and they didn't believe all my story, they said i stayed too long and too often coming, buit i answered that i'd never do something illegal, or overstaying, or work illegally, and always have legal return ticket, and a lot of money, even i shows to them my casino membership card, and what? they still didn't believe my story, and tell me that i must go back to BKK, i refused to go back to BKK, and tell them i want to go back to my country, and they said ok, but must pay around $500 (WTF!!) no choice then i agree..

and then they escort me to a place that they called "SATS office" but i read at the glass door a words "IP Lounge".

they give me a food, and all my stuff locked in the small room, even my phone, they didn't allowed me to phone my family there, it's really not human at all.. and they ask me to sleep at the dormitory, because my flight is not that day, but in the next morning..

next morning, they escort me to the terminal, to take ticket, you know what? at the receipt of the ticket, the fare is $175, and IP lounge charge $268 total $443, i feel cheated, i stayed in the poor bunkers like IP lounge, and must pay the amount same as 5 star hotel price in sg??????

after that i go back, and inside the plane the stewardess still keep my passport, didn't give to me back, like i'm criminal and my passport finally back to me after clearance at my country's immigration..

now i know what many people say that sg officer is not human at all, yes i feel it....

but nevermind, since my tale in sg i met with some singaporean who very nice to me

but the question is:

- when i fingerprinted, it's for scanned that i'm have a criminal records or to record my fingerprint to banned me from entering singapore again?

- there's no stamp deported, WXXX, or any blacklisted stamp in my passport, that's mean i'm not banned or blacklisted?

- how long i can go back to sg? and if i can go back sg again, when my passport scanned at immigration, will it showing a banned record of me?

- and at the immigration card (white card), have a question "have you been prohibited from entering singapore", i must tick "yes" or "no"?

thank you very much

[Mad Scientist]

Looks like you have been caught due to your frequency of visiting here. They suspect you for illegal employment. Since you have no way to prove otherwise, you have been found guilty there and then
I believe ICA officer has given you at least a year prohibition. It can range from One to Seven Years. I doubt yours is the latter one.
When you filled in the D/E card you have to state "yes" as your name and fingerprint has shown your offence.
For the humanitarian side of things since they have been dealing with this on a daily event you are lucky that you are housed and managed to pay for the food and bunker to sleep on. Go to China or India or even Indonesia your home country , then you will realise the conditions on those illegal immigrants face in a holding area

[hiyashichuka]

thx for your reply, mad scientist..

one year quite a long time for me, is there any other options to check my banned period? i mean can check via web or via something? or i must send letter or email to ICA?

and about the D/E card, if i tick "yes" then they will interrogate me, and there's a chance that they will refuse me again.. quite hopeless...

[Mad Scientist]

thx for your reply, mad scientist..

one year quite a long time for me, is there any other options to check my banned period? i mean can check via web or via something? or i must send letter or email to ICA?

You can use your sister if she is PR to check with ICA provide PP number. Not sure if this will help but this is one way

and about the D/E card, if i tick "yes" then they will interrogate me, and there's a chance that they will refuse me again.. quite hopeless... :

If you wrote "No" then it will be one way ticket to the moon.

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[JR8]

Reminds me of how I spent the best part of 2 years in the US, using repetitive 90 day Visa Waiver Scheme entries. Eventually the dung hit the fan and I was told to get a visa or be deported on next attempted re-entry.

They accused me of everything including 'trying to live in the US', to 'working illegally without a visa'.

Getting an embassy visa established my credentials, and I had no more problems. The OP would appear to have misused the SVP scheme, now it his job to establish his credentials in the eyes of ICA.

[hiyashichuka]

my sister holding only EP, her husband also EP... hopeless..

[Mad Scientist]

6 months will be my best bet. One year will be a safe bet
3 years will be the worse. 7 years will be the abnormal one

[Saint]

I'm assuming you are female?

[hiyashichuka]

thx, mad scientist, i will try around 6mth-1years to come back..

@saint,
no i'm male.. i understand usually if someone prohibited to enter, mostly female, that's what i see inside IP lounge, mostly young girls, from what i heard, 8 of them is from vietnam, 3 from china, 2 from thai, and 5 from phillipines, at the same time with me inside IP lounge waiting to deported, i assume they come for prostitute thing (maybe if i see their clothes.., but i won't judge them, that's not my bussiness), other than this, also many indian guys inside IP lounge also waiting for deported back, mostly of them cannot speak english...

oh yeah, and also 1 mexico guy at the same time waiting to deported back, i talk with him, and ask why, he also don't know why he will deported back, because this is his 1st time to enter sg, and have a legal visa, and didn't bring something that prohibited, evn the office didn't tell him the exact reason why he cannot enter.. until now, sometimes i still thinking why he cannot enter? because he's from south america? are all south american people cannot enter singapore? questionable...

[chandra19998]

OMG, how can it be that you are deported, my girlfriend has visited Sg for 5 times this year to visit me and each trip is around 3 to 5 days only. Will she has any problem next time? OMG OMG, i cant believe they are this strict!

[JR8]

OMG, how can it be that you are deported, my girlfriend has visited Sg for 5 times this year to visit me and each trip is around 3 to 5 days only. Will she has any problem next time? OMG OMG, i cant believe they are this strict!

The OP was using repeat SVPs to live in SG for 6+ months.

Don't you see any difference with your own situation?

[cmc321]

Looks like you have been caught due to your frequency of visiting here. They suspect you for illegal employment. Since you have no way to prove otherwise, you have been found guilty there and then
I believe ICA officer has given you at least a year prohibition. It can range from One to Seven Years. I doubt yours is the latter one.
When you filled in the D/E card you have to state "yes" as your name and fingerprint has shown your offence.
For the humanitarian side of things since they have been dealing with this on a daily event you are lucky that you are housed and managed to pay for the food and bunker to sleep on. Go to China or India or even Indonesia your home country , then you will realise the conditions on those illegal immigrants face in a holding area

Intresting, anyone know why ICA fingerprint traveller, for recording or just to check whether got bad record?

[JR8]

Both. What are you afraid of?

[pearlyt]

This isn't the first time I've heard of such a story and yes, the ban from re-entry into Singapore is likely to be six months.

In another situation, a man told me that his Vietnamese wife was denied entry into Singapore, and not allowed access to her mobile, food and water, much like what you experienced. I'm not sure how it was resolved but I believe contact will have to be made with the ICA and you should try to get a letter from your embassy if possible. The man's wife similarly had sufficient cash on her when travelling to Singapore to show that she was not here to work. She also had multiple contacts who would be able to prove that she was their relative as she had married a Singaporean, but the man was told by his wife that all these were not given any consideration.

[ErraticMe]

Hi, i know this was last year topic. But i had the same case your yours, being refused entry Singapore this month. Could you tell me whether you already allowed to entry Singapore again? If yes, could you please tell me how long you can finally allowed to enter again and what the particular thing that u have to do so that u are allowed to enter again. I will really appreciate your help. Thank you.

Regards