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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Jul 2011 1:15 am

Had a bit of a freak out when I heard this today. Shared on facebook, so I thought I'd toss it in the pot here too :-)

Level 42 featuring Jamiroquai :)

Another tweetable. This combination of Babados-meets-Punjab makes me homesick for Brampton :-)[/quote]

If it's drums I thought a Canadian would be banging out some Neil Peart hehe...

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Jul 2011 6:55 am

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Hey, maybe you'll dig this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7yhi1c_q6s
[Sevendust - Face to Face]



Well done Nak :)

You seem to have tweaked my twanky with that one. Been back to it all day, and must have played it 20 times I suppose, and PMd it to 3 mates on FB, all of whom who will 'get it'.

Damn it has some hooks in it eh hehehe?

Not something that happens too often from a first listen :)

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Postby x9200 » Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:34 am

@JR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQYdxwTqABk&feature=related
focus - Eruption (1972)


This one is somehow strangely similar to the Passion Play (Jethro Tull):
>1 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izgb_kxhLdA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC4ClwAhJxk&feature=related
A-HA - The Sun Always Shines on T.V. - Berlin LIVE 2009

More pop I'm into.

It's too easy to dismiss pop as if it is simple and worthless.

.... try and karaoke any of A-ha's songs and I think you'll stop laughing quite quickly.


If I try probably your best option would be to run.

I like A-ha but talking about ambitious pop I think Alphaville is very close to something that could be called a progressive pop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkj5nnz9pfg

The whole album (Prostitute) is a bit like this.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWIDDxNrwPo

Poppy enough for you big guy?


This is like they took a part of "Big in Japan" added some obsessive vocal loops and ... that's it. Have a bit mixed fillings :)

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Postby nakatago » Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:46 am

JR8 wrote:
nakatago wrote:
Hey, maybe you'll dig this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7yhi1c_q6s
[Sevendust - Face to Face]



Well done Nak :)

You seem to have tweaked my twanky with that one. Been back to it all day, and must have played it 20 times I suppose, and PMd it to 3 mates on FB, all of whom who will 'get it'.

Damn it has some hooks in it eh hehehe?

Not something that happens too often from a first listen :)


It's a great song. :cool:

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:19 pm

x9200 wrote:
This one is somehow strangely similar to the Passion Play (Jethro Tull):
>1 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izgb_kxhLdA

Nice link. I've enjoyed Jethro Tull's earlier music for 20 years (though feel their music kinda lost it's way around 1990), but I don't think I've ever heard this track before. Both Jethro Tull and Focus were in their deep prog-rock phases when those tracks came out, both took influences from medieval music, both used Hammond organs. (Tull featured a flute, Focus sometimes a lute, not a big 'f'-in difference in that respect as such ;)).
I'm not surprised that you like Tull actually, what with their folkish tones.



If I try probably your best option would be to run.

In a K-box with a few friends it doesn't matter whether you are good or bad, it's all a good laugh over a table of drinks. Sometimes the worse it is the funnier. You should see me doing Firestarter by the Prodigy complete with all of Keith's frenzied arm actions :) But, there is no way I'd say stand up and karaoke in front of strangers, like you get at wedding receptions in SG!

Karaoke gives insight into a song. Mick Jagger hardly pauses for breath on simple sounding songs like Paint it Black, whereas Ozzy definitely takes it easy on a karaoke fav like Crazy Train


I like A-ha but talking about ambitious pop I think Alphaville is very close to something that could be called a progressive pop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkj5nnz9pfg
The whole album (Prostitute) is a bit like this.

What is progressive pop? Ambitious pop with the candy-floss taken out?
Nice link by the way, the cross-over is quite evident, esp. after around 2'15". Maybe the genre could be North European Pop (ex UK)? :)



This is like they took a part of "Big in Japan" added some obsessive vocal loops and ... that's it. Have a bit mixed fillings :)

Haha :lol:! They're both based on repeating the same four chords. Just the Italians were on nitromethane I think!


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Postby JR8 » Sun, 10 Jul 2011 7:11 am

JR8 wrote:Haha :lol:! They're both based on repeating the same four chords. Just the Italians were on nitromethane I think!



Hehehe... and Face to Face by Sevendust from Nak discussed earlier.

Exactly the same 4 chords as a foundation....

Unnerving isn't it how once you recognise it, it seems to be in just about everything.

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 10 Jul 2011 8:12 am

x9200 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQYdxwTqABk&feature=related
focus - Eruption (1972)


Jan from Focus wrote me a song a couple of years ago.... lol.... fun... and funking cool :)

I suggested asking them, the JA band, to come over to SG and do my wedding music til I calculated it was going to total about $40k in total for 2 hours of music (not even profit for them, just covering costs).

Mr. Akkerman I salute you, you are a total bloody gent and legend! :)

p.s. A shame - Hocus Pocus, Sylvia, and Eruption etc on the back lawn of the Raffles would have been such fun!!! lol

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 10 Jul 2011 8:45 am

Suck this and see for Akkerman and Kaz Lux letting rip.... {lush :)}



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WajtJuOZ ... re=related
Jan Akkerman and Kaz Lux - Can't Fake A Good Time

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Postby nakatago » Sun, 10 Jul 2011 8:50 pm

JR8 wrote:Exactly the same 4 chords as a foundation....

Unnerving isn't it how once you recognise it, it seems to be in just about everything.


Same four chords, you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

There's gotta be a mathematical term for this; like how some numbers appear everywhere (pi, tau, phi, etc). If you think about it, music is also math.

Here's another example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM, except it's 8 notes (which is 4 x 2).

And now, for something completely different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zb1Wghne1w

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 11 Jul 2011 4:41 am

nakatago wrote:
Same four chords, you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I


QED :)

There was a series on in the UK maybe ten years back. Unfortunately I think I only caught one episode. The presenter was a music academic (suit, tie, the works) explaining the evolution of music though the centuries, and demonstrating different chord structures, in relation to different composers.

Wish I had have caught more, as you really got to see how the often standard chord structure is like a structure, around which a band etc can build their song on. I.e. fascinating, I'd never considered it before in such simple terms.

It was around the same time I was in my dance music phase and I seriously considered buying the keyboard and gear to write and record 'the ultimate' happy house song :) Happy house often uses these discussed four chords...


There's gotta be a mathematical term for this; like how some numbers appear everywhere (pi, tau, phi, etc). If you think about it, music is also math.

Agreed. The chord progression is mathematical. The fascinating thing is how various chord structures stir various emotions within us, and how various standard structures are the respective staples of various genres of music.

See here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0OKz40TFMY&feature=fvsr
And then afterwards also look at the Suggestions down the right hand side of the page and try and couple of other examples (the ones with the thumbnails of a keyboard)



Here's another example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM, except it's 8 notes (which is 4 x 2).

Yep, like that one!


And now, for something completely different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zb1Wghne1w

Yeah'ish. '''Heavy rock''' and a fake video (hamming it up for the camera) don't really do it for me though. p.s. Was trying to find an idealised example of a live Prodigy track to suggest back, but it's late so another time... :)

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Postby nakatago » Mon, 11 Jul 2011 8:56 am

JR8 wrote:There was a series on in the UK maybe ten years back. Unfortunately I think I only caught one episode. The presenter was a music academic (suit, tie, the works) explaining the evolution of music though the centuries, and demonstrating different chord structures, in relation to different composers.

Wish I had have caught more, as you really got to see how the often standard chord structure is like a structure, around which a band etc can build their song on. I.e. fascinating, I'd never considered it before in such simple terms.



I have a book on writing songs for guitar. Never got around to finishing it but yeah, it's right there--common chord progressions for songs, which chords can be used to evoke certain emotions and stuff.

JR8 wrote:'''Heavy rock''' and a fake video (hamming it up for the camera) don't really do it for me though. p.s. Was trying to find an idealised example of a live Prodigy track to suggest back, but it's late so another time... :)[/color]


I think I know why. These rockers aren't actors (puh-lease) and that shows in the video. However; some bands have filmmakers on staff and they know what they're doing. Exhibit A: http://youtu.be/hglVqACd1C8

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 11 Jul 2011 4:58 pm

nakatago wrote:I have a book on writing songs for guitar. Never got around to finishing it but yeah, it's right there--common chord progressions for songs, which chords can be used to evoke certain emotions and stuff.

Hmmmm interesting!
(I have a book on learning to speed-read but I never got past the first few chapters hehe...)


I think I know why. These rockers aren't actors (puh-lease) and that shows in the video.

Probably right. If you are going to have the band doing something as the sole focus of the video (in this case acting) you better be bloody sure that they're professionals at it.
I also don't really like the style of the video, none of the instruments plugged in, exaggerated movements. Might be cute in a Kylie Minogue video but nor for serious rock.



However; some bands have filmmakers on staff and they know what they're doing. Exhibit A: http://youtu.be/hglVqACd1C8

Woah! Wow! Talk about dark 8-)


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Postby JR8 » Wed, 13 Jul 2011 6:08 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XUAg1_A7IE
Big Mama Thornton ft. Buddy Guy - Hound Dog

Lovely. Makes me laugh, jeez I wouldn't want to mess with her :)

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 13 Jul 2011 6:13 am

A rocking nun, doing gospel, c1960, and windmills on a Gibson SG.... yeah really! = classic :)

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 13 Jul 2011 6:18 am

This era has gone and won't come back.... incredible... :)

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