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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 4:29 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFS4zYWxzNA
Clubbed to death - Matrix soundtrack

This was (obviously) a club track, before it got picked up by the producers of the Matrix.

A seething, writhing, organic beast of a song.

This song is FFRR - ' 'kin knocks your socks off if you play it through a hi-fi capable of rendering FFRR recordings.

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 4:42 am

Meanwhile ... normal service resumes...


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Motorhead - Iron Fist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcS4fKwN3k0
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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 4:50 am

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Motörhead - Killed by death (Live in Wacken 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUJ0IYZK ... =endscreen
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Thank heavens for British irony.

If our country had to make some huge apologia for every band like... Journey.... Or Supertramp....


We'd have never have gotten to take over the world.

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 5:03 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SqLKGIN-A&feature=fvwp
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields Of Desolation / Outro (Tyrants Of The Ri




Jeez what a state! :o

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Postby Brah » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:35 am

JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SqLKGIN-A&feature=fvwp
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields Of Desolation / Outro (Tyrants Of The Ri


I almost liked the music, until the singing started. That kind of (what do they call it?) growling, dunno, I find it hard to take serious without laughing a little. What is the attraction - trying to sound like Satan?

I wonder what these people's voices will sound like ten years later just speaking.

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Postby Brah » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:40 am

JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-hSgL1R74
Orbital - Halcyon On and On

Recorded with 'FFRR' - Full Frequency Range Recording = down to summink like 25Hz is still faithfully there. (of course you aren't gonna get that through your $5 cans is you Winston! ;)

The music I could take or leave (I think I have an Orbital album, not sure if this one), but the sound quality is very good.

I recently downloaded FLAC versions of some quite, er, unique music from the 80s that is similar in a way. Very minimalist, with a good recording it's one of those things worth listening to just for the sound quality. But...I also like the music, takes me to a happy place in nostalgia-land.

Lemme see what I can dig up....

Edit: Found these (have I posted these before?):

New Musik - Division: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qfHodh1pvQ

New Musik-They All Run After the Carving Knife: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNzNzTShAvA#t=0m57s

New Musik - Straight Lines [HQ Audio]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVlGXuuFZeo

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Postby Brah » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 6:43 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:Watched a great BBC documentary last night, all about the development of southern (USA) rock. Made me realise just what a pivotal role the Allman Brothers played in the whole thing. Here's a later incarnation of the band (so tragic that they lost Duane so early on):

Allman Brothers Band - Ramblin' Man live

Ok just watched it. It's a good show about The Allmans and Lynrd Sknyrd.

What I don't understand is how they could do a special on Southern Rock when they only gave a minute or less for Marshall Tucker, a smidgen of ZZ Top, and nothing of The Outlaws, none of Charlie Daniels except interviewing him, and there's a whole lotta other Southern bands they missed.

Grrr....

This pacified me a bit:
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Green River: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4-yugdZUt0

The Outlaws - Green Grass High Tides: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm2USUqNQPg

While everyone was always going on about Skynrd's epic Freebird, The Outlaws counter to that, Green Grass High Tides blew it away. Skynrd had more fans though.

These guys were not bad:
Rossington-Collins Band - Don't Misunderstand Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDKx9zWINqM

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 7:28 pm

Brah wrote:
JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SqLKGIN-A&feature=fvwp
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields Of Desolation / Outro (Tyrants Of The Ri


I almost liked the music, until the singing started. That kind of (what do they call it?) growling, dunno, I find it hard to take serious without laughing a little. What is the attraction - trying to sound like Satan?

I wonder what these people's voices will sound like ten years later just speaking.


I had a dig around on Wiki and it led to > the vocals are 'death growls' and the genre 'Melodic death metal', which sounds about right...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melodic_death_metal

I agree the music itself was pretty good. And likewise, sadly the vocals wreck it for me. I think you have to be a teenager to find attraction in the style.

p.s. on that Wiki page note the reference to the style originating in Gothenburg, Sweden. Which is curious in a circular way as the first time I heard Metallica I thought they were Swedish. And when I learned years later that they are American I refused to believe it! :)

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Postby Mi Amigo » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 7:34 pm

Brah wrote:
Mi Amigo wrote:Watched a great BBC documentary last night, all about the development of southern (USA) rock. Made me realise just what a pivotal role the Allman Brothers played in the whole thing. Here's a later incarnation of the band (so tragic that they lost Duane so early on):

Allman Brothers Band - Ramblin' Man live

Ok just watched it. It's a good show about The Allmans and Lynrd Sknyrd.

What I don't understand is how they could do a special on Southern Rock when they only gave a minute or less for Marshall Tucker, a smidgen of ZZ Top, and nothing of The Outlaws, none of Charlie Daniels except interviewing him, and there's a whole lotta other Southern bands they missed.

Grrr....

This pacified me a bit:
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Green River: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4-yugdZUt0

The Outlaws - Green Grass High Tides: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm2USUqNQPg

While everyone was always going on about Skynrd's epic Freebird, The Outlaws counter to that, Green Grass High Tides blew it away. Skynrd had more fans though.

These guys were not bad:
Rossington-Collins Band - Don't Misunderstand Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDKx9zWINqM

Yeah, I know what you mean, but at least Marshall Tucker got a look-in. I don't think he was/is very well known in the UK. I only heard his band cos a DJ on Radio Caroline used to play them quite a lot - actually as he (the DJ) had a Birmingham (UK, not Alabama!) accent, for a long time I thought they were actually called the Marshall Tooker Band.

Yeah, Green Grass Tides is a great track and it's a shame they didn't get the recognition they deserved. I've never been a huge fan of Freebird - it's one of those over-played rock 'anthems' that I don't mind hearing every few years, but more often that would be waaay too much.

I thought the debate in the BBC programme about whether or not Skynrd were basically just a bunch of rednecks was interesting; it's something I've often wondered about. I'm a fan of Neil Young and of course his song Southern Man upset many folks down south. The conclusion seemed to be that the lyrics to Sweet Home Alabama are a bit ambiguous - I'd like to think that they just objected to being talked down to by some geezer from Canada, but what do you think?

I hadn't heard the other tracks; thanks for sharing those. CCR are another largely overlooked band IMO - many people know a couple of their hits, but they made so much other good stuff.
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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 7:40 pm

JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SqLKGIN-A&feature=fvwp
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields Of Desolation / Outro (Tyrants Of The Ri

Jeez what a state! :o


heh! you discovered arch enemy only now? well done young padawan.
i watched them in 2006 when they opened for megadeth in sydney.
Angela glossow has an excellent voice,also the band is death metal not melodic death metal
and if you like arch enemy you would also like carcass which was a predecessor to arch enemy which was founded by the amott brothers who currently play in arch enemy

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 7:42 pm

Brah wrote:
JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SqLKGIN-A&feature=fvwp
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields Of Desolation / Outro (Tyrants Of The Ri


I almost liked the music, until the singing started. That kind of (what do they call it?) growling, dunno, I find it hard to take serious without laughing a little. What is the attraction - trying to sound like Satan?

I wonder what these people's voices will sound like ten years later just speaking.


it is growling vocals. the idea of watching those bands is to release all the anger, frustration and a plethora of other pent up feeling.

nothing happens to their voices after 10 yrs, don't worry :cool:

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 7:47 pm

My contirbution to this thread is a thrash metal band called coroner , they play technical stuff,well we can call it progressive thrash

here is a sample of one of their songs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLfI1MnOyOo

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Postby Mi Amigo » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 7:56 pm

JR8 wrote:
Mi Amigo wrote:Ah, Otway and Barratt, happy memories. I remember seeing them on Whistle Test - I loved this one in particular:

Otway & Barrett - Cheryl`s Going Home



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Woah.... that's brilliant. I just love the concept of 'visually apparently shambolic, (and yet actually highly gifted) - the intentional understatement)


Thanks for that, I REALLY enjoyed it, should one risk sounding a ponce by suggesting that's rather seminal, a stepping stone on the short path that joined tired-70sAOR to Punk? :-D

Glad you enjoyed that - here's another good one of his (check out the cool double-necked ambidextrous guitar!):

John Otway - Beware of the Flowers

... And no, I don't think it's at all poncey sounding to suggest that what these guys were doing was an important part of the evolution of 'rock n roll'. I'd put Ian Dury in the same category - here he is in the days before the Blockheads:

Kilburn & The High Roads on something called Skydog TV. Bizzarre or what?

Kilburn &the High-Roads - The Mumble Rumble & the Cocktail Rock. Unfortunately this cuts off before the end of the song, but you get the general idea...
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Postby Mi Amigo » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 8:28 pm

Brah wrote:
JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SqLKGIN-A&feature=fvwp
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields Of Desolation / Outro (Tyrants Of The Ri


I almost liked the music, until the singing started. That kind of (what do they call it?) growling, dunno, I find it hard to take serious without laughing a little. What is the attraction - trying to sound like Satan?

I wonder what these people's voices will sound like ten years later just speaking.

Brah, I'm with you on that. I'm partial to a bit of metal, or whatever you call it in the modern vernacular (to me, it's all rock n roll fundamentally), but I don't 'get' the screaming bit. Well, I kind of 'get' it, I just don't like it. Each to their own and all that, and yes, I know, I'm getting old.

Just been listening to a track from the new Hawkwind Light Orchestra album - these guys (in their various incarnations) have always (AFAIK) had a strongly melodic vocal component in their music, however 'far out' it might have been.

Hawkwind Light Orchestra - We Serve Mankind

I'm sure it doesn't fall into the same 'genre' (hate that word) as the other track, but my point is that you can be as 'hard' and 'heavy' as the next band but still have a nice tune in there somewhere :mrgreen: .
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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 9:16 pm

as motorhead once put it : if you think my music is too loud then you are too old.


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