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Postby x9200 » Wed, 06 Jul 2011 1:56 pm

JR8 wrote:Hehehehe.... no pressure at all to reply. That was the stack I dumped on Facebook for my friends this w/e. As we do.

You are into an eclectic mix! Is there some reason for the Gaelic thing you have going on?

Nothing intentional. I guess I just like the Gaelic folk (broadly speaking). Apart from the mentioned I also listen to The Pogues, Clannad and such.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZP-4B7k ... re=related

I must say for some strange reasons I also enjoy the Scottish accent of Amy Macdonald:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MRYLWJb1o


p.s. I never thought about Marc Almond much (not really my kind of thing) until I heard this. Woof, powerful! Have to respect him after that!
Marc Almond 'Say Hello, Wave Goodbye' 2005 (Jools Holland Show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3bBB1bb6I

Powerful in what sense? He has like two modes of operation: pure pop/rock like and art-pop/rock. Wave Goodbye is of the second kind.
This one, would closer to some indie-pop I think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQP_eqbgo4Q


For some reason the Jools Holland Show really brings out the best in bands. Crikey I even found myself watching and admiring Liza Minelli hehehe :)

Jools Holland Show is amazing. I have a DVD with a compilation from his shows and I like practically every single bit of it.

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Postby x9200 » Wed, 06 Jul 2011 2:00 pm

JR8 wrote:Maybe you will enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiuMwskh ... re=related
Kathryn Tickell - 'Lads of Alnwick' [on Northumbrian pipes]


Gloucestershire Morris Men - Bonny Green Garters [Morris dancing]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2lY3zR ... re=related

First one - yes, 2nd - less :) Thanks!

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 06 Jul 2011 4:35 pm

x9200 wrote:Nothing intentional. I guess I just like the Gaelic folk (broadly speaking). Apart from the mentioned I also listen to The Pogues, Clannad and such.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s


The Pogues seem a bit course on my ear. I appreciate that is their style... but.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZP-4B7k ... re=related

Clannad. Nice tune. Thanks for that!

I must say for some strange reasons I also enjoy the Scottish accent of Amy Macdonald:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MRYLWJb1o


I've heard her name before but not her music. She sounds almost Irish to me. It interests me bands singing in regional accents, as until relatively recently it wasn't a thing you heard (I think it was The Proclaimers that changed that).


Powerful in what sense? He has like two modes of operation: pure pop/rock like and art-pop/rock. Wave Goodbye is of the second kind.

Powerful in that I can imagine he wrote those lyrics about a specific person and set of events, and I feel a very strong sense of passion coming through when he sings it. And strangely enough convincing passion (conviction/emotion) is not something you seem to see a lot of from successful musicians.

This one, would closer to some indie-pop I think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQP_eqbgo4Q[/color]

Ooh heavens, that is an 'exotic' video :)

Jools Holland Show is amazing. I have a DVD with a compilation from his shows and I like practically every single bit of it.

Nice :) I think that is the virtue of quality bands playing small venues. I remember I had Jools Holland on in the background when Muse came on and did their first set and I just sat down mesmerised thinking holy cow who are these people!? One of those moments that only seems to come along every couple of years <sigh>...

Glad you liked the Northumbrian pipes. Much nicer than bagpipes in my opinion.

Morris dancing. Perhaps not gaelic enough for you hehehe. No, I appreciate it is an acquired taste. It is part of the traditional historic culture in the region where I grew up, hence I have a fondness for it.

Edit to add: Speaking of Jools Holland I saw Squeeze in concert back in the late 80's in some dump of a hall in New Cross London. Holy Wow (or something like that) did they put on a show! :))



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Postby poodlek » Wed, 06 Jul 2011 5:13 pm

it's a shame I can't save a draft of a post to be completed later. Oh well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51hJq5fvrRI

A stunning example of perfection in a genre. I don't recall if you actually said you like jazz, but Kurt is a giant among men as far as current jazz vocalists go. His collaboration with his pianist Lawrence Hobgood is to me just otherworldly. Goosebumps every time for this track.

If you like, I'll throw some more contemporary jazz at you in the next week or so.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 06 Jul 2011 5:35 pm

poodlek wrote:it's a shame I can't save a draft of a post to be completed later. Oh well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51hJq5fvrRI

One way is to write it in Outlook (or similar) and save as a draft as you go along. I find I have to do this with longer replies after upgrading to Win7 as it is so unstable compared to XP, my browser crashes certainly once a day.


A stunning example of perfection in a genre. I don't recall if you actually said you like jazz, but Kurt is a giant among men as far as current jazz vocalists go. His collaboration with his pianist Lawrence Hobgood is to me just otherworldly. Goosebumps every time for this track.

Interesting. His voice and vocal style is quite a classic-jazz style, but his lyrics are quite avant garde (this song is melocholy!).



If you like, I'll throw some more contemporary jazz at you in the next week or so.

Absolutely. Everyone is welcome to throw ideas into the pot, that's what it's all about!


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Postby samuel.faith » Thu, 07 Jul 2011 4:13 pm

Like 60% of my times these days, I find myself listening to Cold Day Memory album from Sevendust, especially "Unraveling". Here it goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDApryiqLCs

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Postby nakatago » Thu, 07 Jul 2011 4:37 pm

samuel.faith wrote:Like 60% of my times these days, I find myself listening to Cold Day Memory album from Sevendust, especially "Unraveling". Here it goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDApryiqLCs


I prefer Strong Arm Broken and Ride Insane. :)

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Postby samuel.faith » Thu, 07 Jul 2011 5:14 pm

nakatago wrote:
samuel.faith wrote:Like 60% of my times these days, I find myself listening to Cold Day Memory album from Sevendust, especially "Unraveling". Here it goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDApryiqLCs


I prefer Strong Arm Broken and Ride Insane. :)


What about Splinter and Nowhere? The intro of Splinter always give me chills!

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 08 Jul 2011 3:34 am

samuel.faith wrote:Like 60% of my times these days, I find myself listening to Cold Day Memory album from Sevendust, especially "Unraveling". Here it goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDApryiqLCs



The vid for the track you posted SF. What stood out there to make me not really like it is (I'm sorry to say) the amount of time in the vid spent focusing on the band-members smiling at each other or the camera, all a bit cutesy cutesy, it distracted from the music too. Plus them at one point 'pretending to be about to smash up their instruments but then not doing so'. Whilst watching it I thought the genre might be called heavy-metal-pop or something.

(re: Nak's link Strong arm broken)
The Nine Inch Nails go death-metal? This was a bit more interesting and memorable to me.


Suck this and see what you think... the genre is melodic death-metal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjINfktVHq0
Nightrage-Spiral

Edit to add: Stick with it through at least a minute - it is not all growling (hence the genre name). It works for me as full-on death-metal growling gets rather tiring very quickly, whereas here it is broken up which makes the end result much more interesting I think.

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Postby x9200 » Fri, 08 Jul 2011 7:54 am

JR8 wrote:Powerful in that I can imagine he wrote those lyrics about a specific person and set of events, and I feel a very strong sense of passion coming through when he sings it. And strangely enough convincing passion (conviction/emotion) is not something you seem to see a lot of from successful musicians.

This one, would closer to some indie-pop I think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQP_eqbgo4Q[/color]

Ooh heavens, that is an 'exotic' video :)


He is very passionate. He's also this kind of person/performer who likes to make an artistic manifesto out of his sexuality. The above song comes from the album Mother Fist and Her Five Daughters (also containing a song of that title). As I said, I rather prefer to listen to him (then watch).

JR8 wrote:Glad you liked the Northumbrian pipes. Much nicer than bagpipes in my opinion.

Morris dancing. Perhaps not gaelic enough for you hehehe. No, I appreciate it is an acquired taste. It is part of the traditional historic culture in the region where I grew up, hence I have a fondness for it.


I guess majority of the taste is acquired. Actually a typical scenario for me is that if I don't like something at first sight (or tune here :) but like it slightly later I also like it much longer. So who knows, under right circumstances.... :)

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 08 Jul 2011 8:48 am

JR8 wrote:
samuel.faith wrote:Like 60% of my times these days, I find myself listening to Cold Day Memory album from Sevendust, especially "Unraveling". Here it goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDApryiqLCs



The vid for the track you posted SF. What stood out there to make me not really like it is (I'm sorry to say) the amount of time in the vid spent focusing on the band-members smiling at each other or the camera, all a bit cutesy cutesy, it distracted from the music too. Plus them at one point 'pretending to be about to smash up their instruments but then not doing so'. Whilst watching it I thought the genre might be called heavy-metal-pop or something.

(re: Nak's link Strong arm broken)
The Nine Inch Nails go death-metal? This was a bit more interesting and memorable to me.


About that video...from what I know of the band, I think that was just one-off thing just they'd have a video for that song (it was the first release off the record). It did seem kinda lazy as they just stock footage of the band goofing around. Song's nice...video just didn't fit (fyi, it was off-putting to watch for me too).

Hey, maybe you'll dig this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7yhi1c_q6s

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 08 Jul 2011 5:23 pm

x9200 wrote:He is very passionate. He's also this kind of person/performer who likes to make an artistic manifesto out of his sexuality. The above song comes from the album Mother Fist and Her Five Daughters (also containing a song of that title). As I said, I rather prefer to listen to him (then watch).


Haha great concept! :)
Are there any other artists/bands that go as far as he seems to? There are of course other distinctly homosexual artists, but are their others who issue videos to match? Can't think of any.


Prefer to listen? Out of interest why? Are the candid videos a distraction, or do you find a better focus enjoying music via one-channel (i.e. the aural one)? Sometimes I think a song paints enough of a picture in my mind, without needing to be shown a video picture at the same time. Maybe this why I tend to feel a film clip of a live performance adds to a song whereas an official video tends to detract. ...


I guess majority of the taste is acquired. Actually a typical scenario for me is that if I don't like something at first sight (or tune here :) but like it slightly later I also like it much longer. So who knows, under right circumstances.... :)

I'd certainly not expect you to like Morris Dancing if you have never even heard it before. It is different :)

Sometimes I think that such experiences are how I feel about going to art galleries and museums. It is not necessarily a complete negative to not like what I see. A bad experience also adds to my framework of knowledge. This does not mean I'm going to watch Pop-idol just to tick those artists off my 'I know them' list of course :)


Nak: I liked that link more than the previous ones, so thanks for that.





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Postby x9200 » Fri, 08 Jul 2011 8:52 pm

JR8 wrote:
x9200 wrote:He is very passionate. He's also this kind of person/performer who likes to make an artistic manifesto out of his sexuality. The above song comes from the album Mother Fist and Her Five Daughters (also containing a song of that title). As I said, I rather prefer to listen to him (then watch).


Haha great concept! :)
Are there any other artists/bands that go as far as he seems to? There are of course other distinctly homosexual artists, but are their others who issue videos to match? Can't think of any.

Prefer to listen? Out of interest why? Are the candid videos a distraction, or do you find a better focus enjoying music via one-channel (i.e. the aural one)? Sometimes I think a song paints enough of a picture in my mind, without needing to be shown a video picture at the same time. Maybe this why I tend to feel a film clip of a live performance adds to a song whereas an official video tends to detract. ...



Erasure (Andy Bell) has some clear inclinations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH0SoZNd ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMudxa82Nng

a bit too much to make a justice for some individual songs on artistic license base but I like to watch Erasure video clips and some of them I consider masterpieces of its kind, i.e. this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7UDy7ua2DQ

Marc Almond is too gayish to me. His homosexuality simply pours out from all his videos. It is like watching two men kissing - I am not entirely comfortable with this and it is not a positive aesthetic experience.

Compare these two (Erasure and MA) with Freddie Mercury.

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Postby poodlek » Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:30 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZz5hyq7IV8

Had a bit of a freak out when I heard this today. Shared on facebook, so I thought I'd toss it in the pot here too :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQ-2yh9UCM

Another tweetable. This combination of Babados-meets-Punjab makes me homesick for Brampton :-)

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 09 Jul 2011 1:08 am

x9200 wrote:Erasure (Andy Bell) has some clear inclinations:


Woo Lordy. I certainly enjoy their music, but am not that familiar with their videos/live vids.


a bit too much to make a justice for some individual songs on artistic license base but I like to watch Erasure video clips and some of them I consider masterpieces of its kind, i.e. this one:

That is really nice, I've never seen it before. I wonder if Jeff Koons was the consultant stylist on the video lol. (I like the original version of that song by Cockney Rebel too. Sort of has a grittier urban edge that works...)


Marc Almond is too gayish to me. His homosexuality simply pours out from all his videos.

Yes I'm with you. I know several gay people (all SGns strangely enough), and that's just fine. But then I happen to catch some inadvertent comms on a side channel re: what they get up to and it's just too much info thanks.

So I agree I like the music of Marc Almond, just I don't really need the political/sexuality manifesto thrust right in my face.



It is like watching two men kissing - I am not entirely comfortable with this and it is not a positive aesthetic experience.

Quite. I had the pleasure of sitting next to two, er, male identikit anarcho-anti-globalism crack-head freaks on the tram yesterday kissing. Funny I grew up amongst some hard core punk rockers, but these two would seem to be reveling in a public death spiral.

Compare these two (Erasure and MA) with Freddie Mercury.

Point taken


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