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Re: Music

Postby JR8 » Sat, 08 Aug 2015 3:52 am

'Banal' was a word we used to throw around during the mid-70's, pre-punk, when we were young and thought our individual experiences and opinions held uniquely enlightened relevance; and it was simple to dismiss others.

Ah the idealism of youth :) every generation believes it is breaking new and unique ground; finding and saying something important that others must hear and take note of.

Lady Gaga might not be talented; I have to admit I know little of her: But neither were the Sex Pistols. They were still pivotal in molding late 20thC music though; quite something for a bunch of spotty school drop-outs. You could argue Damian Hirst (etc) isn't either, but he and they apparently sell their wares, and bring many people pleasure.
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Re: Music

Postby Brah » Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:12 pm

I specifically used the Lady Gaga reference because while I do not care for her music and not really familiar with it, she comes across to the uninitiated like yet another pop performer with a cadre of producers and song writers and magic done in the studio to make her sound good.

While that is probably the case for a Brittney Spears, Katy Perry and the like though to be fair I really don't know their work nor wish to, Gaga is in fact a talent who took the pop approach route when getting by on capable songwriting and performance abilities were compromised by a then pedestrian appearance, and prevented her from getting noticed.

I just don't agree that one needs to be an expert on a subject to be able to discuss it intelligently. One does not have to play in the orchestra to be able to discern a good ensemble or good performance, but should be able to elaborate why and get beyond basic impressions.
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Postby JR8 » Mon, 10 Aug 2015 8:42 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plj82F4kY7o
'Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Fortunate Son" '

A surprisingly angry (in tone), and 'protest' song, considering it was from the 60s. Who said anger wasn't bluntly expressed via music until punk came along?
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Postby Brah » Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:29 pm

JR8 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plj82F4kY7o
'Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Fortunate Son" '

A surprisingly angry (in tone), and 'protest' song, considering it was from the 60s. Who said anger wasn't bluntly expressed via music until punk came along?

A generation or two before me but comparably, this one actually had something to protest about, whereas my generation looked a lot like them but it was all after the fact.
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Postby JR8 » Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:39 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpVXNSL ... ture=share
The Stranglers - Live in Paris 1979 ['Down in the sewer']

An old recording now, but well mixed, you clearly hear each instruments 'track'.
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Re: Music

Postby JR8 » Thu, 20 Aug 2015 2:19 am

The Cure - Boys Don't Cry (1979)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDEna0WgtIU

They play some very weird and unexpected music in the breakfast lounge here. This morning they played this one (a blast from past student days). Previous days have seen Metallica, King Crimson, oh and others, but all done in 'lounge/13YO crooner' style. Each time I sit there squinting suppressing a snigger, thinking, good grief now what; it can take a little bit for the penny to drop!?

p.s. Brah, I kid you not, two mornings ago XTC ('IOMP4N') came on... I had to laugh, so unexpected :)
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Re: Music

Postby Brah » Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:07 pm

That is indeed a strange mix, especially for morning music

Speaking of music overheard, a couple of years back I heard this in a Singapore stationery store and memorised the chorus so I could figure it out (didn't have SoundHound installed then) and found it.

Not sure if I posted it before, but it is a very 80s-type music that is contemporary. If that came out in the 80s I would have been listening to them then. Unlike a lot of contemporary stuff I feel this captures some of the creativity from the 80s, in terms of the beat, instrumentation and sparseness.

Satellite Mind - Metric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZbdZVMLnQ4
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Postby Brah » Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:49 pm

A: "Do you smell smoke?"
B: "Yeah, you think it's a fire?"
A: "Nah, it's probably just the gears grinding in MayDay's head"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJW67QN24SA
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Re: Music

Postby JR8 » Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:59 pm

[quote="MayDay5"]

If it was possible to write a 4-chord song, whilst sucking ****, then that might take the gold cup.
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Re: Music

Postby Brah » Fri, 21 Aug 2015 9:46 pm

Ok, back on topic.

The clip I posted which was influenced by JR8's post led me to other posts for that kind of 80s sound I was talking about, and at least 2 examples, this being the first:

Romeo Void - Never Say Never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x0fPZrPV3MI#t=1m0s

They get a lot of tonal coverage from just a few musicians with their choice sound and how it fills, the guitar harmonic strumming is particularly good.

I would say there was a lot more dancing happening in the 80s compared to now, which is more trancing in place to a DJ.
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Re: Music

Postby JR8 » Sat, 29 Aug 2015 2:04 am

I'm not sure whether to cry or start scoopin' the vomit out of my lap.

<Administer the antidote!!>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBojbjoMttI
The Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The U.K (official video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEW8riK ... KU_tE#t=13
Nine Inch Nails - Something I can never have (still)

some introspection, with understatement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An2a1_Do_fc
NEIL YOUNG - OLD MAN

and introspection, done with absolute class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc
Johnny Cash - Hurt (a cover of a Ninch Inch Nails song, as it happens).


Right, now some JPnese clu mixes? :)
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Re: Music

Postby JR8 » Sat, 29 Aug 2015 3:49 am

Franzl Lang Yodels for 10 hours!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaZUAANUPrk

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D477eDWyAyI
Hitler Hears About The Glock 43
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