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Re: Music

Post by JR8 » Fri, 01 May 2015 3:54 pm

Brah wrote:Wendy O's life had a tragic ending but seems like Annabella Lwin is still around. Though they were worlds apart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imf25Squ8ro
'Ramones - It's Alive (The Rainbow) 1977 HQ'

I don't think longevity and er, 'defining society'/culture naturally go together. Weren't all the Ramones dead by 30? The harder they press the off-piste buttons, the younger they die, seems to be the usual
way of things.

Annabella Lwin/Bow-wow-wow. I thought of her as more of a random manipulated and used muse, than an instigator. [Refer: the supreme user and discarder Malcolm McClaren]. Her being featured naked as a 14YO [?] on the sleeve of their first record was typical intentional punk antagonism.

Listen to one of their biggest hits now, and it's utterly horrible.
Bow Wow Wow - I Want Candy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMICD3aMZpw
As with the Plasmatics, 90% of it was the promise of her getting her tits out.
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Post by JR8 » Fri, 01 May 2015 5:06 pm

It's been bugging me for days, in the back of my head: 'What was that song?'.
Finally today it came back to me:
'Olive - You're Not Alone (Original Version) ' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq2lG_42X7s

Strangely haunting and perhaps mawkish. I still like it.

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Post by JR8 » Fri, 01 May 2015 6:15 pm

Squaring the circle, as such [from 'You're not alone'], also from the mid-90s.
'Better Off Alone - Alice DJ' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgs9QUtWc3M
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Re: Music

Post by Brah » Fri, 01 May 2015 6:32 pm

JR8 wrote:
Brah wrote:Wendy O's life had a tragic ending but seems like Annabella Lwin is still around. Though they were worlds apart.
Annabella Lwin/Bow-wow-wow. I thought of her as more of a random manipulated and used muse, than an instigator.

Listen to one of their biggest hits now, and it's utterly horrible.
Bow Wow Wow - I Want Candy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMICD3aMZpw
Agree. She was pretty much a non-event, but I liked the post-Adam Ant African drum thing and bass player was not too shabby on Do Ya Want To Hold Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDXi4yq ... DXi4yqVd9g
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Post by Brah » Sat, 02 May 2015 5:31 pm

This recent step back in the past had me listening to stuff I haven't to for ages. I do believe I've posted a disproportionally less amount on these guys who factored large into my playlist of those times.

There were two camps for XTC - those that knew them as a proto-punk act, and then the post-English Settlement pithy works.

In the punk-era and their rough around the edges beginnings,
Into the Atom Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewEIVsFmhuk

While English Settlement remains a Desert Island album for me, their later stuff was often overlooked by some.

Like
Deliver Us from the Elements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewEIVsFmhuk

or Wonderland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewEIVsFmhuk

And the James Bond-esque The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eKVG1Wa_es

Not what they are famous for but a worthy track
Another Satellite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UivSZ6vEVB4

And their quintessential pop songwriting mastery as in this
Ballet for a Rainy Day / 1000 Umbrellas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O02bC8sppWA

or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Da9sc6YDBo


You'll notice I won't post their more obvious stuff like Nigel, Senses, etc. as most have heard those already, and often, only those.

I've always considered them the Second Coming of the Beatles, they are that good.
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Post by JR8 » Sat, 02 May 2015 6:50 pm

Brah wrote:Agree. She was pretty much a non-event, but I liked the post-Adam Ant African drum thing and bass player was not too shabby on Do Ya Want To Hold Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDXi4yq ... DXi4yqVd9g
[Re: Annabella Lwin of Bow Wow Wow].

It's interesting how you reference the 'Adam-Ant African drum thing'. I suppose it was a quite exciting motif, at that point in time. Slapping the fretless bass was also a thing (think Level 42), where it almost defined their whole sound.

Apologies, just er the tolerance barriers I have, and I know how uber-personal it can be and so on, I can't watch that link (Bow Wow Wow) beyond 5 seconds - might as well be the Spice Girls, or that hideous spotty teenage beast de jour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B2a6l6wM2k
'Adam & The Ants - Stand And Deliver'

Bowie meets Simon Le Bon, at least stylistically? I remember that sound as being quite novel and exciting at the time. Either way, I think this illustrates their perhaps unique 'drum thing'.
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Post by JR8 » Sat, 02 May 2015 7:10 pm

Brah wrote: [XTC] I've always considered them the Second Coming of the Beatles, they are that good.
Hehe... I remember them charting once (Nigel?), maybe twice? A sort of joyfully brief carefree flippant era, that saw the likes of The Farmers Boys. The poppier side against Punk morphing into New Wave. Can't say they were 'significant' for me, there was so much else to be focused on back then.
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Post by JR8 » Sat, 02 May 2015 7:19 pm

'Steel Pulse Live. full concert'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L57sDixSOPk
'Aswad - Live n Direct - 45 minutes live in concert. 1983 (Nottinghill Carnival)'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wCN4KlvqA

-- Love that rambling carnival sound.... :)
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Post by JR8 » Sat, 02 May 2015 8:37 pm

Thot might enjoy....
'Circa: Alan White | Tony Kaye | Billy Sherwood - Epic YES Medley - Live 2007'
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Post by Brah » Sun, 03 May 2015 2:45 am

JR8 wrote:[Re: Annabella Lwin of Bow Wow Wow].

It's interesting how you reference the 'Adam-Ant African drum thing'. I suppose it was a quite exciting motif, at that point in time. Slapping the fretless bass was also a thing (think Level 42), where it almost defined their whole sound.
At that time, African rhythms were the thing - Peter Gabriel, King Crimson, Paul Simon, and many others.

Level 42 was not the fretless sound, you may be referring to Paul Young The Thompson Twins, Japan, and a few others.
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Post by Brah » Sun, 03 May 2015 2:47 am

JR8 wrote:
Brah wrote: [XTC] I've always considered them the Second Coming of the Beatles, they are that good.
Hehe... I remember them charting once (Nigel?), maybe twice? A sort of joyfully brief carefree flippant era, that saw the likes of The Farmers Boys. The poppier side against Punk morphing into New Wave. Can't say they were 'significant' for me, there was so much else to be focused on back then.
In this case they warrant getting on the list of those missed to explore further (my such list is quite full with things from the 70s and 80s, I doubt I'll ever get through it) - they were that good.

They didn't chart well but they were brilliant and agree the morph point.

The other stuff I will check out at a more sane hour.
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Post by JR8 » Sun, 03 May 2015 5:09 am

Brah wrote:At that time, African rhythms were the thing - Peter Gabriel, King Crimson, Paul Simon, and many others. Level 42 was not the fretless sound, you may be referring to Paul Young The Thompson Twins, Japan, and a few others.
I always preferred a dose of Africa from an authentic source, King Sunny Ade, or at least via reggae.
'level 42 mark king bass solo sheffield 2008'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZM7EmlEI3Q
Interesting to see a group who are bass-led, and bass-dominated; where the bass is the 'lead-instrument'. You're right I think I'm perhaps confusing fretless with slapping, the result of both being quite a distinctive motif sound.
African rhythms and King Crimson? Haven't noticed. They always remind me of halcyon youth, lying in a meadow under the sun, more pastoral and melancholy, than downtown Kinshasa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKz5pgARcg - King Crimson - I Talk To The Wind

Peter Gabriel. Wasn't he ex-Genesis or similar. Funny how tribal it gets. He's 98% off-radar. But I'd wager no one could even name a Genesis song these days; curious considering they were a '''supergroup''' of their day.
Paul Simon. NY Jewish old man went to Africa for a week, then redefined himself by it, and was thence yelling his self-appointed, and self-anointed African'ness in your face. A bit like Madonna finding some new calling. Yawn, well yer know some of us have been too, and this pastiche from someone who spent a weekend there. [Refer also the ghastly: Toto: 'Africa' - I understand none of the band have even yer know actually been lol].

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Post by JR8 » Sun, 03 May 2015 6:09 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q
'Muse - Knights Of Cydonia'


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Post by JR8 » Sun, 03 May 2015 8:12 pm

David Bowie- Space Oddity Original Video (1969)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o
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Post by JR8 » Mon, 04 May 2015 8:56 pm

Street Walkers
'Shooting on the streets of Los Angeles is like a filmmaker's paradise filled with horny cops, homeless guys who want to share their private moments with you and alcoholic bus riders who can't hold down their liquor. Some fond memories were created when I shot these girls walking the streets of LA several years ago.'
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