Singapore citizenship application

joyful123 · Post by **joyful123** » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:01 pm

I am a SPR and stay in SIngapore for 18 years. My husband and my 2 daughters are European nationality.

Recently I was thinking whether to give up my citizenship and to apply either Singapore citizenship or to become the European citizenship so that I can enjoy the assurance benefit from my husband's country. However, we have not planned to go back to Europe yet.

what should i do? any advise?

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:05 pm

Is your husband a SPR as well?

joyful123 · Post by **joyful123** » Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:20 pm

yes, my husband and my children are SPR.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:32 pm

If you are not planning to settle in Singapore permanently, why would you take up Singapore Citizenship? Doesn't it make more sense to take up your final destination's citizenship? The odds of a spouse being bounced out of the country without the PR husband are slim I would think, so applying for citizenship here would just be trying to open a can of worms.

Unless you are planning on just abusing the country and want to take up citizenship so you can buy a new HDB property from HDB rather than having to pay inflated prices from the open market resale flats, then selling it on the open market when you all move back to europe.

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Sat, 25 Jun 2011 2:02 pm

Food For thoughts

http://www.ica.gov.sg/data/resources/do ... 080429.pdf

wkwoods · Post by **wkwoods** » Wed, 29 Jun 2011 4:32 pm

I think if joyful123 has been here and paid taxes for 18 yrs, she has a pretty good connection/contribution to Singapore and deserves to be allowed a permanent linkage here. Life in the west is not all its made out to be, especially with the recession in the US and Europe. If she takes up citizenship in Europe, and moves there, she would lose all connection to Singapore and have no possibility of return should the marriage sour or if she decides that she doesn't like living there.

I would therefore suggest that she apply for Singapore citizenship. If she is accepted, she has a permanent home in Singapore. When and if she moves to Europe she can be a PR there and then decide which is better for her and her family.

I think SMS is inferring to much with this HDB thing.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Wed, 29 Jun 2011 5:07 pm

I have my doubts whether ICA would grant her citizenship if she were to apply for it alone, without the rest of the family applying as well. Singapore is funny in as much as they make males who marry local girls, sign a letter at the ROM that they understand that by marrying a local girl, will in no way influence the governments policy on the granting of PR to the male. This is a patriarchal society and their thought processes are that the woman will always follow the husband. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense for them to give the woman citizenship if the husband is also not applying for same. It would appear to them, as it does to me, that it would be to somehow abuse the system. Otherwise, should the husband leave, then it's possible that she could become a ward of the state. Not what the gahmen here desire.

The HDB thing is just an example of abusing the system, becoming a ward of the state is another. Probably wouldn't happen, but it could, so why would the gahmen deliberately put themselves in that kind of position. What would be their gain?

joyful123 · Post by **joyful123** » Wed, 13 Jul 2011 8:57 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I have my doubts whether ICA would grant her citizenship if she were to apply for it alone, without the rest of the family applying as well. Singapore is funny in as much as they make males who marry local girls, sign a letter at the ROM that they understand that by marrying a local girl, will in no way influence the governments policy on the granting of PR to the male. This is a patriarchal society and their thought processes are that the woman will always follow the husband. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense for them to give the woman citizenship if the husband is also not applying for same. It would appear to them, as it does to me, that it would be to somehow abuse the system. Otherwise, should the husband leave, then it's possible that she could become a ward of the state. Not what the gahmen here desire.

Thanks for highlighting, I never thought of that. Anyway I will just have to give a try again.
I just submitted my Singapore citizenship application myself without my husband and children. By the way, this is my 2nd time application. My first application with my elder child was rejected.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Wed, 13 Jul 2011 9:15 am

I think you will find your result will be the same. But good luck anyway.

joyful123 · Post by **joyful123** » Wed, 13 Jul 2011 9:13 pm

hope to hear positive news !!

calmhappy · Post by **calmhappy** » Thu, 28 Jul 2011 8:28 am

May I know when was your first application? It took how long to process and then reject your application?

I've (girl) friend who apply together with 2 daughters got approved maybe 2 years ago.
Another (girl) friend apply alone while pregnant also got approval in 2008/2009.

joyful123 · Post by **joyful123** » Mon, 01 Aug 2011 8:02 pm

calmhappy wrote:May I know when was your first application? It took how long to process and then reject your application?

I've (girl) friend who apply together with 2 daughters got approved maybe 2 years ago.
Another (girl) friend apply alone while pregnant also got approval in 2008/2009.

my last application was 2 years ago and I applied together with my elder one. I got the rejected letter quite late, waited for about 6 months..

cupcakez · Post by **cupcakez** » Tue, 02 Aug 2011 5:48 pm

I am surprised to hear your citizenship got rejected even after living here for 18 years. May I know how long have you been a SPR? I lived in Singapore my whole life (28 years) although I was away on foreign employment for 2 years+. I was born here, and have been SPR for 12 years. I applied in Jan 2011, now I'm somewhat unsure if I'll be approved

joyful123 · Post by **joyful123** » Sun, 07 Aug 2011 8:52 pm

cupcakez wrote:I am surprised to hear your citizenship got rejected even after living here for 18 years. May I know how long have you been a SPR? I lived in Singapore my whole life (28 years) although I was away on foreign employment for 2 years+. I was born here, and have been SPR for 12 years. I applied in Jan 2011, now I'm somewhat unsure if I'll be approved

i have been SPR for about 8 years...so have you received any news about your application? I hope all the best for you.

cupcakez · Post by **cupcakez** » Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:40 pm

joyful123 wrote:
cupcakez wrote:I am surprised to hear your citizenship got rejected even after living here for 18 years. May I know how long have you been a SPR? I lived in Singapore my whole life (28 years) although I was away on foreign employment for 2 years+. I was born here, and have been SPR for 12 years. I applied in Jan 2011, now I'm somewhat unsure if I'll be approved
i have been SPR for about 8 years...so have you received any news about your application? I hope all the best for you.

No news as of now. It's been 6 months and 1 week

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