PEP or EPEC for former PR holder

AnandV · Post by **AnandV** » Tue, 21 Jun 2011 2:20 am

I'm a former PR holder(was in Singaproe on EP for 4yrs and few months on PR), which expired more than a year back(I think) as I'm working outside Singapore for couple of years. Right now working in USA for couple of years, since I didn't enter Singapore before my entry pass expired, I think my PR also gets cancelled automatically?(i just heard).
Now as I'm finishing my employment here in USA, would like to move to Singapore. Assuming PR got cancelled, I do not have any valid pass to enter into Singaproe now.

Now I need to find a way to enter Singapore and find a job.

I need your valuable advice as to what is the right way to do this -
1 - EPEC - to enter and find a job?
2 - PEP (I'm earning >$7k )
or any 3rd option?

I found this forum great with knowledgeable people around. Please advice. I appreciate all your suggestions.

thanks.
Anand.

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Tue, 21 Jun 2011 4:36 am

The first step I would do is to call CAB ICA and provide your blue IC number to see if your PR has been revoked or not.

For the other questions, go to www.mom.gov.sg.

AnandV · Post by **AnandV** » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 2:33 am

Thanks for the suggestion. Called ICA. They said my PR is not revoked yet but couldn't give any details as to how to get REP(ReEntryPermt). I emailed asking if I can get REP. If Im fortunate to get that, I'm sure that would be the shortest and best of the solutions I have. But chances are less from what I see - what if I don't get that is the question - whether to go for PEP or EPEC.. having already worked earlier in Singapore, am I eligible for EPEC?

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 3:52 am

OK, PR not revoked but REP not sure still valid.
Is yours the old 10 years type or the new 5 years one. ? If it is the latter , you can forget it as your PR is dead in the water. If it is the former, maybe you have a chance if you can confirm with CAB ICA. I said maybe...

PEP is better but even now PEP application is very hard to get approval

Don't even contemplate EP. As this would require the employer to apply the EP on your behalf. Indian FTS are being chopped down like you have never seen before.

I cannot shed more light to this as since this year we received confusing signals from MOM. To top it off, is the recent GE that makes the Gahmen looks really bad in the eyes of the locals.

Now the Gahmen is on the "healing" process but yet again the leopard never change its spot. It is more of not rocking the boat from what I perceived

Saint · Post by **Saint** » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 8:42 am

From what you've told us you haven't got a chance of renewing your REP as you don't meet the criteria below.

Additional Documents Required for SPRs under the Professionals/Technical Personnel and Skilled Workers (PTS) Scheme
If you are an employee

•A letter (issued not more than one month ago) from the employer addressed to the Controller of Immigration, stating the date of employment, position held and monthly salary
•Statement from the CPF Board showing the CPF Contribution History for the last 12 months
•Income Tax Notice of Assessment for the last 3 years.

The reason why your PR hasn't been revoked yet is because you haven't withdrawn your CPF

AnandV · Post by **AnandV** » Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:08 pm

I've requested for issue of REP(so that my i can get back onto PR status) but not successful. Received an email from ICA saying that I must handover the card for cancellation.

thanks.

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 5:02 am

AnandV wrote:I've requested for issue of REP(so that my i can get back onto PR status) but not successful. Received an email from ICA saying that I must handover the card for cancellation.
My question: Can I apply for PEP during or before my PR cancellation? Or I must cancel my PR(by handing over the blue NRIC card) first then only apply for PEP?

You have to cancel PRship first. You cannot hold two passes in Singapore period.
Application for PEP, SVP or EPEC does anyway get affected due to this "PR not cancelled" status? Or i can go ahead apply for a PEP while my PR card is still with me? - I don't mind keeping CPF though, may be I can plan to handover the card if I get into Singapore on different Visa.

It does as my above replies. Cancel then apply PEP

Please suggest if you have any idea on these.

thanks.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 7:00 am

Only MOM or ICA or both can downgrade/upgrade status. You cannot go from resident status to Employment Pass status without giving up the resident status first. And, once having done so, the likelihood of that being given are very slim as the PEP is a stepping stone to get PR and not the other way around. Do you think you are playing monopoly? Two steps back and the go forward again? Don't work that way. Going back two steps is telling the gahmen to "kiss my arse, I'm only interested in abusing the system". They are wise to those types already.

AnandV · Post by **AnandV** » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:29 pm

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Sat, 25 Jun 2011 4:05 am

You will not be able to get your PR even if you are able to step in the last year of the REP validity as you will need to submit 3 three years income tax for renewal. Your thoughts and plans has been well covered by ICA as you are the typical PR abusers that ICA wants to kick out big time.
I hate to say this but you had it coming my child. Alot of your countrymen are doing the same thing. Don't ya think Gahmen is that GONG ??

I edit this type error

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Sat, 25 Jun 2011 7:04 am

Hopefully, that one is never allowed back into the country. Another abuser we don't need.

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