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Post by lilconfuse » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:53 am

hi... i just like to ask do you know when can i go back to singapore since the immigration refuse me to enter last dec 2010? i applied for an appeal and sponsorship but unfortunately i was denied, without any reason what so ever... thanks!

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Post by Mad Scientist » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:00 pm

How long is your banned period to enter Singapore ?

Why are you refuse entry to Singapore

Did you commit offense here while on SVP or WP or whatever ?

Are you caught with illegal substance or contraband at border control?
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Post by lilconfuse » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:43 pm

[quote="Mad Scientist"]How long is your banned period to enter Singapore ?

Why are you refuse entry to Singapore

Did you commit offense here while on SVP or WP or whatever ?

Are you caught with illegal substance or contraband at border control?[/quote]

they did not tell me until when, but my fiance' who works in singapore file for appeal and sponsored me by a friend who's singaporean citizen, but they also deny the appeal, the form they gave me (immigration sg) when i was A to A, i fail to comply with the requirements, i did not commit any offense or commit illegal forms, besides i travel to singapore since 2008. they did not give any information why, i dont know till when i can travel to singapore just for a tourist. thanks for the time and the information you might as well share

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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 1:35 pm

lilconfuse wrote: they did not tell me until when, but my fiance' who works in singapore file for appeal and sponsored me by a friend who's singaporean citizen, but they also deny the appeal, the form they gave me (immigration sg) when i was A to A, i fail to comply with the requirements, i did not commit any offense or commit illegal forms, besides i travel to singapore since 2008. they did not give any information why, i dont know till when i can travel to singapore just for a tourist. thanks for the time and the information you might as well share
If you are from a South asian country that regularly accuses Singapore of abetting and condoning human smuggling syndicates or Human trafficking syndicates, then you should ask your government why Singapore is giving Special treatment for your brethren .. :D :D

Doesn't help if you are a regular visitor here .. and more so, if you are a female ..

No comments ..

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Post by JayCee » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 1:42 pm

ecureilx wrote:
lilconfuse wrote: they did not tell me until when, but my fiance' who works in singapore file for appeal and sponsored me by a friend who's singaporean citizen, but they also deny the appeal, the form they gave me (immigration sg) when i was A to A, i fail to comply with the requirements, i did not commit any offense or commit illegal forms, besides i travel to singapore since 2008. they did not give any information why, i dont know till when i can travel to singapore just for a tourist. thanks for the time and the information you might as well share
If you are from a South asian country that regularly accuses Singapore of abetting and condoning human smuggling syndicates or Human trafficking syndicates, then you should ask your government why Singapore is giving Special treatment for your brethren .. :D :D

Doesn't help if you are a regular visitor here .. and more so, if you are a female ..

No comments ..
To be fair though, Singapore's record on trafficking is not exactly something to be proud of is it?

However, if you're referring to one of the countries in this list http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... stan-india then I tend to agree

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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 1:49 pm

JayCee wrote: To be fair though, Singapore's record on trafficking is not exactly something to be proud of is it?

However, if you're referring to one of the countries in this list http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... stan-india then I tend to agree
I don't agree .. and was wondering how long it will be before the Singapore bashing comes on ;) ;)

Well, the issue in Singapore is, it is like flies attracted to Sh**t .. almost everybody from the region wants to come here to make some quick buck, and then I am still wondering how much the Govt can do to weed out the moonlighters from the genuine travellers .. catch 22 my friend .. weed out all the women, and you loose the tourist market .. and if you stand a middle line, the odd one who slips by claims that she was trafficked in .. and instead of the sending country and the agents and the syndicate taking blame, the international community is quick to blame Singapore ..

In my eyes the only crime of Singapore ? Being successful and attracting these flies ..

And on an average, atleast 5% of pax get offloaded in some SEA countries, heading to Singapore, and there too a fair number are genuine cases ..

No comments. .

PS: Nope, I was referring to SEA countries which are in the 'stop if possible at any cost' list, as some SEA countries blame everything on Singapore .. I hope you had a read of the Last Saturday's newspaper ..

And no offense to the OP, and no stereotyping .. it just happens, the ICA people are working blind, not knowing who is genuine and who is not .. sometimes you do end up with a raw deal ..

Fiance' doesnt' fly .. but, if you are married, then, ICA is not so cold hearted ..

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Post by JayCee » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 3:48 pm

ecureilx wrote: I don't agree .. and was wondering how long it will be before the Singapore bashing comes on ;) ;)
And I was wondering how long it would be before you rode in on your horse to defend all things Singapore too. Btw you're the one who brought people trafficking into this in the first place :roll:

But as you've brought the subject up, yes I saw the announcement last week, the government is claiming that it will now make the effort to clamp down on people trafficking? Kind of like admitting that they haven't done enough about it before don't you think? A lot of the women in OT and the various KTVs around the island are probably trafficked, as a regular patron of these establishments maybe you don't like to think that possibly you're contributing to the problem, does it make you uncomfortable so you have to tell yourself that the problem doesn't exist instead?

The UN has criticised Singapore for it's record before, I hardly think they have a vendetta against Singapore

Take your rose-tinted specs off my friend

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Post by lilconfuse » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 3:53 pm

thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions, to tell you honestly im a genuine traveller who just want to spend time with a partner since we're not married yet, you guys maybe right they might suspect ill subject myself to human trafficking which is too offensive, or they might think i go there to find a job which i would'nt do. how many months is the banned period for someone like me who doesnt have criminal records nor violation of law from my country, or singapore?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 4:50 pm

For the record she is from one of the Asean countries and is not from the PRC or Thailand. At least not according to her IP addy.
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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 4:59 pm

lilconfuse wrote:thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions, to tell you honestly im a genuine traveller who just want to spend time with a partner since we're not married yet, you guys maybe right they might suspect ill subject myself to human trafficking which is too offensive, or they might think i go there to find a job which i would'nt do. how many months is the banned period for someone like me who doesnt have criminal records nor violation of law from my country, or singapore?
I think you missed the point .. before that, are you from SEA ??

My issue is, not the Singapore Govt .. it is the SEA countries which blame Singapore, and when a runaway lover/gf/partner cries in the Embassy that the Govt of Singapore is faulty for her woes, the Singapore Govt is not at all happy ..

Take a look at your passport. It should have something with a W .. the number following is a general guideline on the number of months you cant' step in ..

And getting your fiance's friend to act as a sponsor, despite so many people preaching about it, doesn't help, unless he is your sibling, or your fiance' himself ..

BTW, Singapore is no US, so no sponsoring business .. the PR/SC only is guaranteeing the ICA that he/she will be responsible etc ..

And again, it could not be your fault that you were the 'lucky one .. ' ..

And for the trafficking, the case has always been, that, the victim, when caught by the cops were vocal in accusing the Singapore Immigration and everybody except their brethren and the fellow countrymen, for putting them in their plight .. Doesnt' help much does it ??

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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 16 Jun 2011 5:10 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:For the record she is from one of the Asean countries and is not from the PRC or Thailand. At least not according to her IP addy.
Oh, maybe closer to the issue than I thought .. can give me an approximate direction ?? :D from Singapore, is it 1, 2 3, 4, 5 or 6 O clock ?? ;) :D

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Post by ksl » Fri, 17 Jun 2011 1:39 am

There's trafficking and there's trafficking and it has been going on for decades, and ecureilx is right Singapore does attract it from all variations, and profiles from the runaway to the hookers that voluntarily invade Singapore for its wealth. Many women are also tricked into various areas of the sex industry.

Though it also happens in many Countries, Not long ago the Russian mob was holding auctions at Heathrow airport cafe to the highest bidders as the immigrants landed, now how blatant is that! I was gobsmacked that it was done so openly.

London and piccadilly is famous for it, as runaways arrive at Waterloo they are picked up wandering the train stations, So i think it is a little unfair to pick out Singapore, not that the government gives a toss anyway. There are strict controls in Singapore and anyone operating outside those controls will be punished.

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