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Copy of the web-site and copyrights

Postby IOP » Thu, 02 Jun 2011 4:41 pm

Guys, say, we want to copy asiaonline.net or any other SG web-site, change logo and colors and use it for our company. Is it legal in SG?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 02 Jun 2011 4:57 pm

So you are basically using the format as a template and will be inserting your own content? Or will you be plagiarizing their content as well?

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Re: Copy of the web-site and copyrights

Postby x9200 » Thu, 02 Jun 2011 5:18 pm

IOP wrote:Guys, say, we want to copy asiaonline.net or any other SG web-site, change logo and colors and use it for our company. Is it legal in SG?

SG has protection of IP similar to the European (EU). It was introduced pretty recently (in 2005 IIRC). If the graphical design or elements are sufficiently of creative and individual character they are protected.

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Postby ksl » Thu, 02 Jun 2011 5:38 pm

Yes X9200 is correct, so look for some open source templates, there are many to choose from, just do a search.

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Postby IOP » Thu, 02 Jun 2011 6:01 pm

Thank you guys,
May you share a link to view 2005 IIRC?
What if I copy some non-SG web-site: American.
I will copy only templates, change colors and logo.

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Postby x9200 » Fri, 03 Jun 2011 9:43 am

IIRC = If I Remember Correctly

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Postby Strong Eagle » Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:47 am

IOP wrote:Thank you guys,
May you share a link to view 2005 IIRC?
What if I copy some non-SG web-site: American.
I will copy only templates, change colors and logo.


What about the CONTENT... you know... the words and pictures and links... are you going to change those, too?

If not, you are violating copyright just about anywhere in the world.

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Postby scarbowl » Sat, 04 Jun 2011 5:04 pm

Where are you from that this is considered acceptable? Just curious. It isn't ethical and shows a lack of initiative, creativity, and skills. I'm guessing you aren't local, either.

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Postby IOP » Sun, 05 Jun 2011 5:35 pm

scarbowl wrote:Where are you from that this is considered acceptable? Just curious. It isn't ethical and shows a lack of initiative, creativity, and skills. I'm guessing you aren't local, either.


is it a new method of promoting Singaporeans as creative & initiative?
doesn't any other thoughts come into your head, that you started to judge me so fast?

:o

By the way, check this out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Singapore
The legal system of Singapore is based on the English common law system
Won't it be a secret for you that Singapore has copied a lot of stuff out of West. Creative? Initiative? And, of course, Local.
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Postby Strong Eagle » Sun, 05 Jun 2011 5:36 pm

IOP wrote:
scarbowl wrote:Where are you from that this is considered acceptable? Just curious. It isn't ethical and shows a lack of initiative, creativity, and skills. I'm guessing you aren't local, either.


is it a new method of promoting Singaporeans as creative & initiative?
doesn't any other thoughts come into your head, that you started to judge me so fast?


:o


You still have not bothered to answer my question. What about the CONTENT... you know... the words and pictures and links... are you going to change those, too?

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Postby IOP » Sun, 05 Jun 2011 5:42 pm


You still have not bothered to answer my question. What about the CONTENT... you know... the words and pictures and links... are you going to change those, too?


No, I don't need the content. I'm asking only about functionality (logic, business model). Words, pics, links will be different. Maybe some forms will be similar: like registration, etc.

By the way, it's interesting, I believe that someone may come to court in this case only if the guys have intellectual patents, isn't it?

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Postby Strong Eagle » Sun, 05 Jun 2011 5:48 pm

IOP wrote:

You still have not bothered to answer my question. What about the CONTENT... you know... the words and pictures and links... are you going to change those, too?


No, I don't need the content. I'm asking only about functionality (logic, business model). Words, pics, links will be different. Maybe some forms will be similar: like registration, etc.

By the way, it's interesting, I believe that someone may come to court in this case only if the guys have intellectual patents, isn't it?


There are about a zillion template based web development packages out there... from Drupal and Joomla to various blogs. Chances are good that any website you are looking at is already derived from some base template or website engine.

If you see something you like in terms of organization, layout, etc, then have at it... find a web engine and implement.

Just remember that in almost all cases the web page source code you view in your web browser is the output of an engine... most often php... that looks far different.

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Postby IOP » Sun, 05 Jun 2011 5:57 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:There are about a zillion template based web development packages out there... from Drupal and Joomla to various blogs. Chances are good that any website you are looking at is already derived from some base template or website engine.

If you see something you like in terms of organization, layout, etc, then have at it... find a web engine and implement.

Just remember that in almost all cases the web page source code you view in your web browser is the output of an engine... most often php... that looks far different.


Well, the story a little bit different. We are going to order web-shop, but we don't have time to describe what we want, but we know some US web-site which is what we want, maybe with 15% changes.
Also we are going to invest a lot of money and want the product as soon as possible, and we want to eliminate the risk of not getting what we want, so we will tell to our contractors (web-studio) that they should take that US web-site as a model. Of course our contractors will develop different templates, but the model - you understand that US web-shop is quite big and ours will be the same.
So I'm afraid, that those guys from US may prove that it's a copyright violation, because a lot of forms and stuff like buying/payment logic will be very similar.

What do you think?

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Postby ukdesigner » Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:41 pm

This is totally illegal, not to mention unethical, and as a designer I'd go mad and sue your arse off for plagarism and breach of copyright.

If you want to copy a model of a website then that's fine. If you blatantly copy a website and make a few changes that is breach of copyright.

If your web team are not bothered then let them go ahead. They might get sued aswell.

I suggest you either create something yourself from scratch, which will cost you money but it will also be an individual website and not a copy.
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Postby IOP » Mon, 06 Jun 2011 4:02 pm

ukdesigner wrote:This is totally illegal, not to mention unethical, and as a designer I'd go mad and sue your arse off for plagarism and breach of copyright.

If you want to copy a model of a website then that's fine. If you blatantly copy a website and make a few changes that is breach of copyright.
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it looks you haven'r ready the whole topic, we trying to copy the model, but add our changes.


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