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Singaporeans with Canada PR - Can my baby boy travel to SG ?

Postby infiniticanada » Tue, 24 May 2011 9:08 pm

Dear All,

I am in a dilemma right now.. and here is my situation :

My wife and I are Singaporeans with Canadian PRs. We are both residing in Canada. Recently, we gave birth to a baby boy - as such my baby boy is Canadian citizen by birth.

My baby boy is now 3 months old and we are planning to bring him to Singapore to spend some time with our aged parents.

Here are my questions....

1. How long can my baby (Canadian Passport) stay in Singapore? Can he stay 6 - 7months in Singapore? is this possible?

2. I am undecided whether to register him as a Singaporean as yet. Is this a choice I have? Or must I register him as Singaporean?

Does anyone have the same experience? Appreciate any advice... Thanks!

Louis

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Re: Singaporeans with Canada PR - Can my baby boy travel to

Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 25 May 2011 4:12 am

infiniticanada wrote:Dear All,

I am in a dilemma right now.. and here is my situation :

My wife and I are Singaporeans with Canadian PRs. We are both residing in Canada. Recently, we gave birth to a baby boy - as such my baby boy is Canadian citizen by birth.

Congratulations on your new born baby and many happy returns !!!

My baby boy is now 3 months old and we are planning to bring him to Singapore to spend some time with our aged parents.

Here are my questions....

1. How long can my baby (Canadian Passport) stay in Singapore? Can he stay 6 - 7months in Singapore? is this possible?

He will get a standard bog visa of 30 days or 90 days depending on border control. If he is stamped with 30 days SVP, you can E-xtend it on line at ICA website or go down personally to ICA to get it extend up to 90 days max. Once you reached that max. he has to depart or do a turn around to gain another 90 days. Now, this is a tricky choice as some has to return to the country of origin , some only need to do a turn around of about 5 days min and come back to SG. It all depends on the PP you are holding and ICA officers at border control. IMHO, if you are the legal guardian and the local sponsors, you will receive the latter stamped of another 90 days

2. I am undecided whether to register him as a Singaporean as yet. Is this a choice I have? Or must I register him as Singaporean?

What do you want him to become in foreseaable future ? A cannon fodder of the Gahmen or Free Willy ?
If your intention to have him educated here then register him as SG under Dual Citizenship of a Minor of Singaporean Descent.
Once that is done you can either attain a SG PP or have a right of entry stamped at the back of his Canadian PP. He will enjoy the similar educational subsidy either way. If you follow the former, then you will be seen enjoying SG economic benefits which will later will bite in your bum if you mess up the exit permit at 13 or decided that you want your child to be educated in Canada or do a runner from NS. If you chose the later, less messy as you did not appy SG PP hence not seen enjoying SG economic benefits. Either way by 21 he has to decide to choose Canada or SG as SG allow only One Citizenship after 21. At the same time you have to follow the protocol sticky wrote by Kraikk which is excellent for those who wish to do a runner or otherwise on NS


Does anyone have the same experience? Appreciate any advice...

Does this make me having the same experience as you ?

Thanks!

Louis
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Postby infiniticanada » Wed, 25 May 2011 9:45 pm

hanks Mad scientist...

To further my question...

My baby boy will have a Canadian Passport and I do not intend to register his birth with Singapore as yet.

Urgent questions... would like to know my options :

How long can my baby (Canadian Passport) stay in Singapore? Can he stay 6 - 7months in Singapore? I read somewhere that there is some sort of “Right of Entry”

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Re: Singaporeans with Canada PR - Can my baby boy travel to

Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 26 May 2011 4:08 am

Mad Scientist wrote:He will get a standard bog visa of 30 days or 90 days depending on border control. If he is stamped with 30 days SVP, you can E-xtend it on line at ICA website or go down personally to ICA to get it extend up to 90 days max. Once you reached that max. he has to depart or do a turn around to gain another 90 days. Now, this is a tricky choice as some has to return to the country of origin , some only need to do a turn around of about 5 days min and come back to SG. It all depends on the PP you are holding and ICA officers at border control. IMHO, if you are the legal guardian and the local sponsors, you will receive the latter stamped of another 90 days

2. I am undecided whether to register him as a Singaporean as yet. Is this a choice I have? Or must I register him as Singaporean?

Once that is done you can either attain a SG PP or have a right of entry stamped at the back of his Canadian PP. He will enjoy the similar educational subsidy either way. If you follow the former, then you will be seen enjoying SG economic benefits which will later will bite in your bum if you mess up the exit permit at 13 or decided that you want your child to be educated in Canada or do a runner from NS. If you chose the later, less messy as you did not appy SG PP hence not seen enjoying SG economic benefits. Either way by 21 he has to decide to choose Canada or SG as SG allow only One Citizenship after 21. At the same time you have to follow the protocol sticky wrote by Kraikk which is excellent for those who wish to do a runner or otherwise on NS
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Thanks!

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:shock: :shock: Louis

Have you ever bothered to read thru my ealier post ? The answer is all up there. Look up and you will see what you are looking for. Do I need to shine a BIG SPOTLIGHT on it ?

As I have said max is 90 days per visit .

TO gain Right of Entry stamp you have to register your child as a Sger hence dual citizenship.

In order to stay for more than that if YOU REFUSE to REGISTER HIM AS A SGER, you have to leave Sg at the end of 90 days and reenter again. You may or may not get another 90 days or even 30 days. But you can appeal to ICA Kallang providing yourself as a local sponsor since you are a SGER.

LTSVP yes you can if you can satisfy their requirement
http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=176

Parents’ Identity Cards (copies of the NRIC must be submitted to ICA)
Applicant’s Birth Certificate
Local sponsor's Marriage certificate (original and photocopy); if the local sponsor is divorced, the local sponsor's Divorce Certificate and Custody Papers; if the local sponsor is widowed, the spouse's Death Certificate
If only one of the parents is a SC/SPR:

Local sponsor's Income Tax Notice of Assessment for the last 3 years
Local sponsor's CPF Statement showing monthly CPF contribution for the last 12 months
Local sponsor's Letter of Employment stating Date of Commencement, Designation and Salary per month (for self-employed: sponsor's valid Registration Certificate from the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA website) and Company's Profit & Loss Statement for the last 12 months)
Local sponsor's highest Educational Certificate



Can you satisfy LTSVP requirement, ??

How can you apply for an EXTENSION WHEN YOU ARE NOT EVEN HERE !!!!.
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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 26 May 2011 4:32 am

Oh BTW, you have to be patient on our replies. Even ICA has a turn around of 72 hours on all replies. You got less than 12 hours replies for your ques, so be patient and grateful
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 26 May 2011 7:03 am

One additional thing to note is the fact that if they opt for the right of entry in his canadian passport, the odds of him ever being allowed to work or gain PR here as an adult are greatly diminished as the right of entry will go on his records here and be enshrined in stone for future considerations. Something to think about. How badly do you want to screw up his future by burning bridges before he even knows what a bridge is! :-|

Unfortunately, only you two can answer that at the moment so one can only hope you make the right choices.

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Postby infiniticanada » Fri, 27 May 2011 4:45 am

Thanks all for the response...

Noted on the above, some further questions based on your reply...

1. I noticed that it is possible to apply to the Long Term Visitor Pass online via a new e-Service application. Hence i was wondering if this is something i could apply ahead of time from Canada here to make things easier and reduce wait time when we are arrive Singapore....

2. Any implications of apply for the Long Term Visitor Pass? I mean my wife and I are both Singaporeans so should be able to meet their requirements... Or are there hidden ?

3. Would applying for the Long Term Visitor Pass equate to penalizing ourselves in any way? (just want to confirm...)


I am deeply worried and just wanted to make sure I get a good sense/picture of what to expect...

Thanks again all for your patience!

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Postby Mad Scientist » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:00 am

infiniticanada wrote:Thanks all for the response...

Noted on the above, some further questions based on your reply...

1. I noticed that it is possible to apply to the Long Term Visitor Pass online via a new e-Service application. Hence i was wondering if this is something i could apply ahead of time from Canada here to make things easier and reduce wait time when we are arrive Singapore....

Yes, you can if you can meet their requirement. All application will be reviewed on its merit. There is no guarrantee of approval or rejection and ICA does not reveal their reason for rejection.

2. Any implications of apply for the Long Term Visitor Pass? I mean my wife and I are both Singaporeans so should be able to meet their requirements... Or are there hidden ?

None that I can think of unless you have not benn paying taxes prior your migration overseas or outstanding fines or maybe ICA does not like you.

3. Would applying for the Long Term Visitor Pass equate to penalizing ourselves in any way? (just want to confirm...)

Penalizing what and why and how ?


I am deeply worried and just wanted to make sure I get a good sense/picture of what to expect...

Thanks again all for your patience!
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Postby infiniticanada » Fri, 27 May 2011 9:56 pm

Thanks Mad Scientist for the advice & inputs!

"Penalizing" meaning: Was wondering if there is any "catch" with the Long Term Visitor Pass that would have implications down the road etc... so far it seems safest option for me right now.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sat, 28 May 2011 3:50 am

infiniticanada wrote:Thanks Mad Scientist for the advice & inputs!

"Penalizing" meaning: Was wondering if there is any "catch" with the Long Term Visitor Pass that would have implications down the road etc... so far it seems safest option for me right now.


Base on what you provided to me , NOPE. LTSVP route does not means it is a guarranteed approval for all application.
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