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Post by poodlek » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:31 pm

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poodlek wrote: And I think she has a valid concern, given that any LL who says "NO INDIANS" is practicing racism by its very definition, even if their concern is only the cooking style.

Yeah and, Asians are racist.... big shock?


And a person who is discriminated against for their country's cuisine may very well feel like a second-class citizen.

Indians are probably the most racist race on earth. Shock horror.

Try practicing a little empathy, dude.

Landlording is a business, not a charity via which to sing Kumbaya and make global friends

If I were her and a LL asked if me if I was Indian, I would neither confirm nor deny and say "I'm American, what difference does it make?"

Ah idealism vs gritty Sing-Chinese reality...
I don't think I'm being unrealistic. I'm not expecting there to be no racism, I just thought it odd that given the topic of this thread, the woman was attacked for asking if she was going to have a problem. We don't need to hold hands and sing kumbaya, just acknowledge the reality here without being a dick about it. As far as my "idealism" goes, I don't expect my comment would fix the LL, but it would make him explain his position, so she could explain hers. And Indians being racist has nothing at all to do with the the conversation, unless of course the Indian landlords are excluding potential tenants also.

Edited to add: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CSnlb-ymA
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Post by JR8 » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:31 pm

mom2gurls wrote:Yup, north indian, new yorka and loud...(mamma bears claws coming out).

Anyway, if its not a big deal there its not a big deal. Dont even let me get started on our current assignment in india (yup and indian expat IN INDIA). Its "interesting" to say the least.

Thanks
Always wondered how Americans can associate themselves with their heritage, but then be a bit shocked at all that it entails.

I.e. you say you're born and bred American. But then you also say you're North Indian. You're Asian but horrified by Asian traits?

Is it cultural cherry picking?

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Post by JR8 » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:39 pm

poodlek wrote:
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poodlek wrote: And I think she has a valid concern, given that any LL who says "NO INDIANS" is practicing racism by its very definition, even if their concern is only the cooking style.

Yeah and, Asians are racist.... big shock?


And a person who is discriminated against for their country's cuisine may very well feel like a second-class citizen.

Indians are probably the most racist race on earth. Shock horror.

Try practicing a little empathy, dude.

Landlording is a business, not a charity via which to sing Kumbaya and make global friends

If I were her and a LL asked if me if I was Indian, I would neither confirm nor deny and say "I'm American, what difference does it make?"

Ah idealism vs gritty Sing-Chinese reality...
I don't think I'm being unrealistic. I'm not expecting there to be no racism, I just thought it odd that given the topic of this thread, the woman was attacked for asking if she was going to have a problem. We don't need to hold hands and sing kumbaya, just acknowledge the reality here without being a dick about it. As far as my "idealism" goes, I don't expect my comment would fix the LL, but it would make him explain his position, so she could explain hers. And Indians being racist has nothing at all to do with the the conversation, unless of course the Indian landlords are excluding potential tenants also.

Edited to add: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CSnlb-ymA

Point is Poodlek, she is 'going to have a problem'.

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Post by mom2gurls » Fri, 27 May 2011 6:48 pm

Never used the word horrified.

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Post by JR8 » Fri, 27 May 2011 7:07 pm

Yep ok, sorry. I was generalising (having lived in NY, and witnessed the uber-racist attitudes to race there first hand. It's like they can hardly stop talking about it, or referring to it for 5 seconds)...

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Post by poodlek » Fri, 27 May 2011 7:20 pm

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Point is Poodlek, she is 'going to have a problem'.
And my point was, that's all that really needed to be said.

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Post by ecureilx » Fri, 27 May 2011 11:51 pm

poodlek wrote:..... I just thought it odd that given the topic of this thread, the woman was attacked for asking if she was going to have a problem.
Jeez.. for crying out loud .. I am sorry if my honest reply sounded like attacking the poor lady .. and my offence was at her asking if singapore will treat her like second class citizen ..

Next time, let me pepper it with a lot of sugar .. please ...

Talking about holding hands .. let me tell you .. not every Indian, but most indians will try to force their habits and food on others, but never will they even graciously accept and give a try at other culture's habits .. say, food, .. Indian will gleefully force indian food down non-indians, and insist you must eat with the hands et al .. but when a non-indian, say chinese, politely ask if you wanna try the chinese food, it will be like "yucks, not gonna touch that smelly crap .. " or "maybe that has lot of beef and what not and maybe some unkown meat .. ... " "And in the limited hindhi and a more of tamil I know, and with some indian friend's help, I have managed to translate some comment as "these guys are animals to eat that kind of food .. " And never will i invite non-indians, if I am going for food with indians .. it will turn into a comical tragedy .. and I know the guys are not the type who scream merah bharat mahan ..

my horror is .. if you have no intention of reciprocating, why do you take the first step of feeding or forcing a chinese guy / girl extremely spicy food and then turn your back ?? Probably you can answer that .. first ... It only gets worse if the victim is a girl, as instantly everybody will surround her and try to make her regret her decision to even try the indian food ...

To qualify my statement, not that i hate indian food, i love it .. and not all indians are as i described ...

What was your question again ??? :D :D

maybe we have gone off thread anyway, and time to wind my neck down my foxhole ...

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Post by nakatago » Sat, 28 May 2011 12:16 am

ecureilx wrote:not every Indian, but most indians will try to force their habits and food on others, but never will they even graciously accept and give a try at other culture's habits .. say, food, .. Indian will gleefully force indian food down non-indians, and insist you must eat with the hands et al .. but when a non-indian, say chinese, politely ask if you wanna try the chinese food, it will be like "yucks, not gonna touch that smelly crap .. " or "maybe that has lot of beef and what not and maybe some unkown meat .. ... " "And in the limited hindhi and a more of tamil I know, and with some indian friend's help, I have managed to translate some comment as "these guys are animals to eat that kind of food .. "
seen it happen to our team but to be fair, only one of the four indians in our team 'force' food on us but refuse to reciprocate.

otherwise, it's always a feeding frenzy whenever someone brings food from their home country.
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Post by ecureilx » Sat, 28 May 2011 12:25 am

nakatago wrote:otherwise, it's always a feeding frenzy whenever someone brings food from their home country.
You are lucky, or your colleagues are domesticated I guess (or internationalised ??

In my previous place, which had a few dozens of Indians, it is funny to see the guys throw sweets from Korea or China, before even the person who brought it moved out of sight - straight into the rubbish bin .. ah, come on .. atleast wait and wrap it up and throw it where it is not so obvious :D :D

Anyway, on to our topic .. Atleast this season is seeing few and fewer of racial preferences .. is the market not so hot as it was before ?? :D

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Post by mom2gurls » Sun, 29 May 2011 3:53 pm

[quote="ecureilx"][quote="poodlek"]..... I just thought it odd that given the topic of this thread, the woman was attacked for asking if she was going to have a problem. [/quote]

Jeez.. for crying out loud .. I am sorry if my honest reply sounded like attacking the poor lady .. and my offence was at her asking if singapore will treat her like second class citizen ..

Next time, let me pepper it with a lot of sugar .. please ...

Talking about holding hands .. let me tell you .. not every Indian, but most indians will try to force their habits and food on others, but never will they even graciously accept and give a try at other culture's habits .. say, food, .. Indian will gleefully force indian food down non-indians, and insist you must eat with the hands et al .. but when a non-indian, say chinese, politely ask if you wanna try the chinese food, it will be like "yucks, not gonna touch that smelly crap .. " or "maybe that has lot of beef and what not and maybe some unkown meat .. ... " "And in the limited hindhi and a more of tamil I know, and with some indian friend's help, I have managed to translate some comment as "these guys are animals to eat that kind of food .. " And never will i invite non-indians, if I am going for food with indians .. it will turn into a comical tragedy .. and I know the guys are not the type who scream merah bharat mahan ..

my horror is .. if you have no intention of reciprocating, why do you take the first step of feeding or forcing a chinese guy / girl extremely spicy food and then turn your back ?? Probably you can answer that .. first ... It only gets worse if the victim is a girl, as instantly everybody will surround her and try to make her regret her decision to even try the indian food ...

To qualify my statement, not that i hate indian food, i love it .. and not all indians are as i described ...

What was your question again ??? :D :D

maybe we have gone off thread anyway, and time to wind my neck down my foxhole ...[/quote]


I am glad you think "not all indians are like this". It must have been tough to deal with the types of indians you have encountered. I would have been just as irritated as well :-).

But just to let you know (if it makes you feel better)...there is discrimination with the indians as well!!! We are RED MEAT eaters..yup you got it...I'll enjoy a nice porterhouse anyday with a baked potato and side of veggies.

Its a weird discrimination.."oh you eat meat", you drink, party..etc etc etc. We are too "americanized for them" or too modern. I dont care what your dietary preference is, but I too dont like it to be thrown in my face on what YOU dont like. kwim?

I have seen the scene that you have described in my office many moons ago...recent immigrants in the lunchroom...and It was the first time I was embarassed for my culture. I thought it was rude and insensitive.

So I feel you on that. But not all of us are "like that"...at least not in the states. There are two main types. Indo-americans brought up in the west, moms and dads, kids integrate well with the society, others (while enjoying there heritage)...and number 2, immigrants who have been in the US a short time, long time..that are clustered with there own kind, and have chosen to take advantaged of the oppurtunity blessed to them, yet refusing to integrate. Its a common theme esp those with families..its based out of fear that there kids will "end up on the wrong path, marry an american, become too americanized"..etc. I know it to be true, because I have witnessed it first hand.

Like I said, not all are like this. Sorry if the rant statement offends. But it really is true in the US. Honest.

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